I consider working in NYC as a lawyer like taking a 30k paycut as compared to Chicago. To work more.
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I had put that I worked at the USAO office this fall (I'm a 2L) and I got asked about it at almost every interview during OCI. And this was before I even did a lick of work for them (I had been accepted for the fall internship but I hadn't started working at the time of OCI). Take the USAO, it's an easy choice.
« on: January 29, 2008, 08:42:48 PM »
Rule of thumb #1:
Never base your decision on the assumption that you're going to be at the top of your class.
Rule of thumb #2:
The competition is fierce everywhere, especially for your 1L year.
« on: January 29, 2008, 01:32:58 AM »
I've done a transfer within Chicago schools recently, so I will give my two cents.
First thing: good job. you rocked this semester.
Second thing: you have to do well next semester too.
Third thing: apply to all the schools. You'll clearly get into Kent. I suspect that you'll get into NU. Chicago? Who knows. It costs you an extra 50 bucks to find out.
Fourth thing: think twice about what you want before you go. Especially if you happen to not get into NU/Chicago. As a top student at the T4 school in Chicago, I think that your job prospects in the Chicago area are pretty good. IMO it's not worth it to do to the move to a T2, especially given today's job market. If you want to clerk, aim at NU/Chicago, don't bother with the other schools.
« on: December 13, 2007, 05:19:09 PM »
they matter if you want to clerk, that's for sure.
« on: December 13, 2007, 08:54:49 AM »
1. The rule of thumb is to put your gpa on your resume if it's good. That's the common practice. Therefore, even if you're going to give them your transcript, if you *don't* put your gpa on your resume there is always the possibility that they will automatically assume your gpa is not good, and chuck your resume. Even if you have class rank. OR they will get lazy and not want to look on the second page and just chuck your resume. OR they will say 'what the hell is wrong with this person, they had a good gpa and didn't put it on there' and chuck it. In any case, if your gpa is good (and it is if your rank is good) then you should just put it on there. (my opinion).
2. One of my professors always said "the perfect is the enemy of the good." In other words, don't get so caught up in trying to write a "perfect" essay that you fail at writing a "good" one. Who knows, if you have time you can improve it, but at the very least you hit all the major points and that in itself might be enough for an A.
Yes every law school is sorta like high school. That part doesn't change when you transfer. Except when you transfer it's like a high school where you don't know any of the people, and you go up to groups of people and try to butt into conversations.
Honestly, I don't even personally feel it's possible to cheat in an set-time scheduled essay-type exam. Everyone uses the entire 3 hours. Everyone is pretty much typing the entire damn time. You'd have to be right up next to someone to not be slowed down by looking at their computer. And the time you spend looking is precious time you're not barfing rules onto the paper.
Cheating only becomes an problem when the exam isn't a typing contest (i.e. multiple choice/short answer).
I've never heard of a 1L getting a summer externship with a judge at the appellate level. That would be pretty badass.
That being said, I *personally* think that working for a judge is probably one of the best experiences you'll ever have (I worked at the state trial level). I would definitely (again *personally*) place it above any firm clerking (although not a SA position since that has the big bucks) position. During OCI in almost every interview I was asked about my experience in my externship and I had a pretty good story to tell, who knows what my story would've been if I was a research monkey for a medium sized firm.
That being said, of course you have to take into account your own circumstances.