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General Board / Re: JAG - Info wanted!
« on: January 31, 2009, 11:08:45 PM »
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I'm interested in being an AF JAG.  Good information here and yes, I learned a lot through their website.

Any others still thinking about being a JAG?  Specifically 1Ls?  What are you doing or to the more seasoned students/graduates, what did you do your 1L summer?

I worked for the Commonwealth Attorney (prosecutor's office) my 1L summer, did the USAF JAG Internship my 2L summer.  Applied to the Oct 2008 USAF accessions board and found out in late Oct that I was accepted.  Also applied and was accepted to Army JAG, but definitely going Air Force. 

Experience and internships are important- JAG mostly wants to see that you're dedicated to public service (I also worked for the DOJ prior to law school).  JAG acceptances are competitive, usually around 10%.  My grades are decent, but I'm not in the very top of my class- goes to show the value JAG places on experience.

I didn't go back and read much of this thread, but feel free to post if you have questions.


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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: George Mason University
« on: May 03, 2006, 10:16:25 AM »
Quality of Life
What isn't reasonable is the nearby rent.  In the 22201 zip code, rent ranges from $1400-1800 for a 1 bedroom.  These prices are insane!  It really bumps the full price tag when you include the cost of living.  Food prices are reasonable, but man, the living expense is crazy!

Welcome to my neighborhood.

Yes, rent is pretty ridiculous, especially if you choose to live by yourself in a 1 bedroom.  But if you're willing to take on a roommate you can definitely find options for MUCH less than $1400 and still within walking distance of the metro.  I lived near Courthouse metro for a year and with a roommate paid $1600 total ($800 each) for a two bedroom apartment.  There are also plenty of houses still near the metro where with 2-3 roommates you'll pay as little as $600 + utilities. 
If you want a 1 bedroom in a luxury condominium on top of the metro you'll definitely have to shell out $1800, but just know that there are plenty of good options out there that are close to metro/bars/restaurants for much much less. 
Where can I find a roommate?

Craig's List is probably your best bet for finding a roommate around here. 

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Mixed thoughts on DC
« on: April 27, 2006, 04:03:31 PM »
Ok so I've been getting a lot of conflicted information about Washington DC.  I'm looking for people out there that have actually lived in the city for a few years to give me the straight dope on the place.  I'm most curious as to your thoughts on....

-- living in the city as opposed to VA/MD (is the fact that the metro stops at 11:30 on weekends really that big a deal?)
-- the general "safety" of the NW section
-- how "nice" your typical DC resident is
-- the ease with which to meet new people at bars/clubs
-- any other advice (good or bad) that you wish someone had told you before you moved there!

Thanks in advance!  :D

Living in NoVA is a little cheaper than Foggy Bottom/Dupont/Woodley Park areas of DC, but not by much.  If you're planning to bring a car, definitely live in VA.  The metro ride from the orange line (Ballston, Clarendon, Courthouse, or Rosslyn) to GW is not bad at all.  During peak hours trains come every 2 mins and will get you to GW in roughly 10 mins.  Off-peak weekdays you can expect to wait 10-15 mins for a train at the most and weekends you'll wait 15-20 mins for a train at the most...it all depends.
There's alot of bars/nightlife in VA- around Ballston and Clarendon especially.  I think people are generally friendlier in these bars because they are not as pretentious as most DC bars.  
But for your 1L at GW it might be easier to be "closer" (VA is still close) to the school.  DC is filled with Type A's and is definitely a transient town.  But just remember that there are literally thousands of students in the DC area who are also new to the area and looking to meet people.  

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Im keeping the desktop along with the laptop because theres no reason not to.. Unless you have a shortage of room it can't hurt...

EDIT:
Also, you can backup your laptop onto your desktop, so you have much less risk of something terrible happening..

Ditto for me.  I own a deskop and will keep it even though I'm getting a laptop for law school.  Unless you're pressed for space or just want the cash from reselling it, why not keep the desktop?  Plus you can keep your laptop streamlined and running quicker if you keep all the extraneous crap and unnecessary applications on your desktop. 

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FWIW, even before I found out my dad was willing to pay, I was ready to take NYU with no $ over full-tuition at Georgetown. Debt goes away, school name sticks to you like glue...

The problem is, the quality of the name changes over time -- and there's no way to tell where it'll go.  Look at the people who chose Michigan in the late 80s when it was #3.

Secondly, it's not really the name that helps you out in your career, it's the network.  It's why the number of alumns and location of alumns are so important.

Lily has got it right, where you went matters to get that first job but from there it's all about the alumni network and what you've done in your career.  If you're ultimately looking to move to a job with the federal govt. here in DC, Georgetown may open more of those doors.  I work for the DOJ and when we interview lateral hires we honestly don't care whether you went to Georgetown, Columbia, or a T3.  What does matter is if someone here has put in a good word for you (networking/alumni) and what you have done in your career. 

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I also think those posters are the 21/22 year olds coming straight out of undergrad who can't contemplate a serious relationship where suddenly the "I" becomes a "We".   

well said... thought that needed to be repeated.

we wonder why the divorce rate is so high in this country.....  :-[

The divorce rate is so high because of thirty- and forty-somethings getting divorced, not 21 and 22 year olds.

I am 22 and my boyfriend of five years and I decided to try to apply to similar schools.  Because my numbers were higher and my ambition greater, he agreed to choose his schools based on where my top choices were.  As the cycle began, it became evident that I was going to have considerably better luck than he.  We've decided - intelligently, rationally, and respecting fully the importance of what we have - to take a break for the next three years, especially as I will be in Los Angeles and he will be on the east coast, and then see where we are after graduation.  This was a very difficult decision.

The OP seems pretty set on the decision to stay near the SO, but I'm just expressing a different point of view.  Choosing to place law school temporarily over a relationship is not an immature or flippant act.  For some people, it is the wiser, more stable option at the given time.  Either decision is a very challenging one to make, and I think there are respectable arguments to be made for both sides - it's entirely a matter of where you are in your life and what your priorities are... and I don't think that necessarily has to do with age.  If I were 32, I believe I would make the same decision.

There indeed are exceptions to what I said, and while you and your b/f made a rational choice to take a 3 year break, your decision to do so just reinforces my original point.  A 22 year old recent college graduate is simply at a different place in his/her life than a 28 year old.  If you had been talking marriage with your b/f would you have made the same decision you did?

I agree completely that choosing law school over a significant other is not necessarily immature and doing so may be the more stable option for them.  But let's face it, for most 22 year olds today (and especially those who seek graduate degrees), marriage is not in the foreseeable future. 

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There actually has been talk about a ring, but she wants to live together for at least a year first.  We've been together for awhile and I'll be 28 when I start school in the fall.  Going away could mean 3 - 4 years before we'd be able to live together as she's getting her PhD and may have to go away for her internship the year after I graduate.  However, if I stayed in DC, we'd be moving in together this summer.

Poseidon it sounds as though you would consider taking AU over BU if you're in my situation, is that right?

Your situation is sounding more and more like mine.  We've talked marriage down the road, but she wants to live together for a while first...
Yes, if I were in your shoes I would take AU over BU.  But it also depends what you're looking to do with your law degree.  If you're looking to get into biglaw, then the highest ranked school may be the best option. I'm all about quality of life after I graduate and I'm content with living comfortably and NOT working for biglaw.  But that's just me.
I think you're going to see multiple posters on this board that would tell you to go get yours and do only what's best for you.  I also think those posters are the 21/22 year olds coming straight out of undergrad who can't contemplate a serious relationship where suddenly the "I" becomes a "We".  

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I hope to eventually wind up at as an Assistant US Attorney.

I'll probably have to pay my dues at a firm or state/local level prosecutor's office first.  I rather not work for big government agencies like DOJ headquarters: they can be just as impersonal as biglaw at less than half the salary.

You sort of have it right about the DOJ.  I work in the antitrust division now and it can be impersonal simply b/c it is a huge bureacracy.  And yes, the pay is generally even less than half a biglaw salary.  But the difference is in the quality of life.  You work 8 hour days, have the option for a flex schedule and people here are for the most part HAPPY.  Probably because our attorneys aren't trying to meet a ridiculous number of billable hours.

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So, I'm in a very serious relationship in the DC area.  The relationship is very important to me and I'm trying to look at the long-term aspect of this whole thing and not just the next three years.  Is anyone else out there considering going to a "lesser" school because of a relationship?

Here's the low down: I'm already in at Catholic in DC and have put my deposit down.  However, I'm waitlisted at American and Washington & Lee right now.  I've got it worked out with my girlfriend that I would go to either of these schools over Catholic if I were to get in and that I would probably go to W&L over American.

Now here's the other thing, I'm still waiting to hear from a few schools UPenn, UNC, and BU.  Obviously, we've discussed that UPenn is a no-brainer (I'm not getting in anyway), but if I were to get in, it's too good of an opportunity to pass up.  UNC I'm no longer interested in.  But the problem lies in getting into BU.  BU is a bit further away from DC and more so a flight rather than a drive if we want to see each other with any regularity.

If I were to get into W&L, BU, and AU I'm thinking the compromise is W&L right now.  We've also discussed that BU is probably a better opportunity for me than Catholic down the road.  However, we keep running into conflict when it comes down to BU and AU.

Any thoughts?  Anyone running into a similar quandary?

I can relate...sort of.  I'm also in a serious relationship in the DC area and I'm in at George Mason but waitlisted at W&L.  I've pretty much written off W&L at this point, but an admit off the waitlist could make me think twice.  Granted W&L is still just a few hours to get to by car, but combining even that short distance with the stresses of 1L could spell trouble for any relationship.  She works at GW full time and is getting her masters so we don't have many opportunities to see each other as it is.    
Every relationship is different and you've gotta decide first exactly how serious the relationship is...have you been dating a month or a year? are you really going to marry her somewhere down the road?  If the answer is yes then talk it through and decide how far is too far for you to go to law school.  I have friends who have done the distance thing for close to 8 years through undergrad and graduate school and they're getting married next year.  Law school is an investment for your future and if you're thinking long-term for your current relationship, you should be able to tell your g/f that going to a better law school will only help provide a better life for your future together.  

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: George Mason University
« on: April 17, 2006, 04:16:51 PM »
Quality of Life
What isn't reasonable is the nearby rent.  In the 22201 zip code, rent ranges from $1400-1800 for a 1 bedroom.  These prices are insane!  It really bumps the full price tag when you include the cost of living.  Food prices are reasonable, but man, the living expense is crazy!

Welcome to my neighborhood.

Yes, rent is pretty ridiculous, especially if you choose to live by yourself in a 1 bedroom.  But if you're willing to take on a roommate you can definitely find options for MUCH less than $1400 and still within walking distance of the metro.  I lived near Courthouse metro for a year and with a roommate paid $1600 total ($800 each) for a two bedroom apartment.  There are also plenty of houses still near the metro where with 2-3 roommates you'll pay as little as $600 + utilities. 
If you want a 1 bedroom in a luxury condominium on top of the metro you'll definitely have to shell out $1800, but just know that there are plenty of good options out there that are close to metro/bars/restaurants for much much less. 

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