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Current Law Students / Re: This is a strange question...
« on: August 28, 2005, 08:21:08 AM »
I can't believe that some professors do this! I mean I can understand if the same person gets up at the same time during class everyday, but an outright ban? If it's not in your law school handbook, (which I doubt) I would say ignore the rule and do as you please. Especially if there is anonymous grading. If the prof has a problem with that, contact the dean of students. There's no excuse for the prof being such an a**hole.

Current Law Students / Re: tell me about law school cliques...
« on: August 28, 2005, 08:17:57 AM »
I'm with you, nate, as I eschewed the clique since middle school and found 1L very frightening for that very reason. Having class with the same people in your section during 1L makes it easy for cliques to form, and I'm hoping that it diffuses a bit during 2L when everyone has different classes and new activities like law review, moot court, and clinicals to focus on. I found that the cliques were pretty much the same as in high school: pretty girls with pretty girls, jocks with jocks, smarties with smarties. They also tend to form study groups along those lines. There's more gossip than I would have expected too, but what can you do?

However, there were floaters like me and others that weren't completely a part of other groups but were friendly with most everyone and went out with cliques on occasion. My advice would be to do that, unless there are genuinely a few people who you really click with. I think after 1L people will make friends with people in their new more specialized classes and extracurricular activities; even now, I'm meeting new people on law journal that I genuinely like a lot. Good luck!

Current Law Students / Re: orientation questions
« on: August 19, 2005, 06:06:41 AM »
Don't fall for it, 1Ls. A lot of the people in my class last year wore suits the first day and looked like complete tools. Everyone dresses casual in law school unless you have an interview or a meeting with a professor or a special event to go to.

Job Search / Re: When Do 1L usually start looking for 1L summer jobs??
« on: August 03, 2005, 12:43:24 PM »
If you're looking at government-type jobs (Office of the Attorney General, Justice Dept., DA, Public Defender), it's best to start earlier. Some of the deadlines will be in January, only a month after you're allowed as a 1L to start proactively searching for summer jobs. Public interest work tends to interview and hire in March and April, later than the others.

Current Law Students / Re: Study group- Yay or Nay?
« on: August 03, 2005, 05:02:16 AM »
I feel like study groups do more to make you feel uncertain about yourself- that other people have concepts down and you don't. Everyone has different pacing and different learning styles, so it doesn't necessarily mean that you're unprepared just because another person in your study group is waxing poetic on a certain point of law.

Study groups just weren't for me- I've always been independent by nature and I feel that it cut into time that I could be using to look at the material more in-depth. Toward exams, I ran some stuff by one of my classmates- estates system stuff for Property, some UCC stuff for contracts, and that did help.

Current Law Students / Re: President of my Law School student senate?
« on: August 02, 2005, 10:09:09 AM »
Usually the president of the SBA is a 3L, so you have plenty of time for that. SBA basically doles out the money and runs some happy hours. I think that most lawyers realize that, so if you're looking for prestige, you're probably better off gunning for moot court or law journal. SBA people at our school are the gregarious. I think the speech thing really depends on the school- I think at my school all the speeches are given by those who have excelled in particular areas at the school, be it in academics, journal writing, oral advocacy or public interest. The SBA might have some role in commencement, but I'm not aware of it.

Current Law Students / Re: Hardest 1L Class?
« on: August 02, 2005, 10:04:27 AM »
I thought Torts was the hardest, though it was fun. Lots of gray area and different rules of law depending on the jurisdiction. We had more cases in Torts than any other class during 1L. Property has a lot of new stuff to learn, different terms and language, but I didn't find it too difficult. Civ Pro is basically learning the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure- jurisdiction, etc. is pretty easy stuff.

Current Law Students / Re: International Law
« on: July 22, 2005, 07:44:52 AM »
I think French is a huge asset, since the two big languages of the UN are French and English. As far as I know, if you're planning on working abroad, some firms and organizations require fluency in the native language of the country you are working in. However, if you're planning on doing international law primarily at an American firm, it's not as important, I have heard. But it can never hurt to brush up if you already have a background in the language.

Current Law Students / Re: International Law
« on: July 21, 2005, 04:56:47 AM »
Glad to see someone else on here with an interest in international law! While we don't have "concentrations" per se at my school, there are tons of opportunities in international law, including  a terrific study abroad program. I'm a 2L and in spring semester I'll be headed for Asia, where all of my coursework will be in international negotiation, human rights, and comparative law. My school also has a program where one can get an LLM with only an additional semester of coursework. This summer I'm working with a international law group that is contracted with the Iraq constitutional commission to assist with research and legislative drafting. Other soon-to-be 2Ls that I know with an interest in international law are working for UN agencies and other non-profits, or are research assistants with professors. Plenty of us have our eyes out for firms that specialize in international negotiation and development.

As far as 1L goes, there usually is not much opportunity for coursework in the field (though some schools allow students to take International Law as a spring elective), but I'm sure there will be plenty of lectures on international topics with lawyers and other professionals in the area. Most schools seem to have an international law journal that you can attempt to write-on in spring and I would say that all schools have an International Law Students Association or something comparable.

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