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Wait List / Re: Michigan waitlist
« on: July 19, 2006, 04:07:05 PM »
To my knowledge, Michigan is the only school that does this. I believe you can only defer to the summer option. 

Actually, I think Chicago does something similar.

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Wait List / Re: Michigan waitlist
« on: July 19, 2006, 04:06:22 PM »
I got this email this morning.  Anyone want to take a guess what my chances are.  Anyone have any idea how many people remain on the waitlist or how many people need to withdraw from Michigan before they dip into the wl

That all sounds right in line with what they'd said on the website.  Congratulations on making another cut! (although I understand it's sort of a bitter prize.) 

I can't offer any substantive guess as to how many remain or # of offers they'll make, but I remember reading that by the time they get to this point, the pool is quite small and the entire UMich admissions staff knows the waitlisted applicants off the top of their heads.  Also, I noticed that all of the orientation materials emphasize the importance of registering on time, since if we fail to do so they'll assume we've changed our minds and give our spots away. 

Here's hoping!  I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

Agreed to all. I also think that if you DO hang in there literally to the bitter end--which would certainly be stressful and a huge pain in the a$$--the chances of it paying of are good. As few people as there are left on the waitlist now, it's quite probable that by registration day there would be literally only 2 or 3 people left, and so any spot that did open up would go to one of only a few people. And, given the ridiculous number of waitlist admits this cycle, your chances are probably better than usual to have last-minute changes in the T14 as HYS finalize their plans and it filters down...

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Wait List / Re: Michigan waitlist
« on: July 19, 2006, 04:00:01 PM »
angelina, thanks!!!!! :)

both of you: the 10K in need-based aid you are talking about, are you saying that is not a loan but is actually free money?

Yes for me also, but it's not no-strings, jsyk--there's actually a note somewhere in the financial aid award letter that basically says you're expected to donate a commensurate amount of money to the school later even though you are not legally obligated to--they look on it as a moral obligation to pass it on, so to speak.

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Wait List / Re: Michigan waitlist
« on: July 19, 2006, 12:48:11 PM »
Also, CONGRATULATIONS, Duck!  :)
That's great.

If you REALLY want Michigan I suggest asking if you can defer. I did and got an offer within 12 hours of my request. It seems a few people have asked for and gotten deferrals from Zearfoss.

I can attest to this. I did the same thing, asked to defer off of the waitlist, and tho it took them two months to grant my request, they did it and now I'm starting next summer! I think asking to defer from the waitlist pretty much always works eventually because if you are already on the waitlist it means they want you in there but just don't have the room this year, so putting you into next year makes sense. good luck to all who are still waiting!! it CAN happen, me getting in with my low numbers proves it.

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Wait List / Re: Michigan waitlist
« on: July 19, 2006, 12:47:08 PM »
I'm currenlty accepted at Norhtwestern, but with absoulutely no $$.  Is it worth it to request a deferral from Michigan?  What kind of need based financial aid does Michigan give to people who have an extremely low expected family contribution?



Michigan seems pretty good with the need-based aid. I got nothing from GULC and about 10k per year from Michigan, FWIW.

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One more thing about schedules: I called to ask if you can request a particular section (because unlike you, Angelina, I'd really like to be in E or F!) but they said the answer is almost always no (they might if you had some compelling reason). They have very good reasons for not taking requests, though, so it's all good. Just thought I'd throw that out there in case anybody is wondering.

Other than registering at 8:15 am, what are the advantages to being in section E or F? Or is registering first the reason you want to be in them? Just wondering...

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I've heard that law school is like high school socially speaking...lots of he said she said, people talking about the latest couples, cliques, stuff like that.  Does anyone have any tips on how to avoid getting sucked into all of that?

I have also heard that this is not the case. I think it depends what you go there looking for.  If you want to be a grownup, chances are you can find some other grownups to study/hang out with. Like other people have said on this thread, all environments will contain some people who can't move on from high school (likely because it was the high point of their life, which is sad). I'm sure there are some of those in law school, but as long as you go to a reasonably-sized school, you don't have to interact with them that much. Unlike in some of the nightmare job scenarios people have posted about here, where the immature person is your boss, for instance, you can pretty much choose your company in law school, can't you?  

I have definitely noticed high-schoolish behavior in every work environment I've been in, crossing multiple industries, but I have also noticed that if you have the luxury of ignoring it, as I do in my current job, it is more amusing than anything else.

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Um, since this seems to be the most current class of 2009 Michigan thread--does anyone know when/how we find out our section assignments? They sent out the email today with the Registration and orientation schedule, and they do it by section, so it seems rather important to know in advance...did I miss something.

Also, FYI, I applied for the MAP loan and didn't have a problem--I signed all the promissory notes already and everything. I agree that the interest rates seem pretty shite for student loans, but interest rates are on their way up and I'm told that those rates will be looking pretty good by the time we graduate. Still, it's tough knowing that if I'd gotten my sh*t together and gone to law school a year earlier, I'd have a fixed rate of at least a couple percentage points less on the massive amount of money I'll be borrowing.
<sigh>

Good to see you on the thread Angelina! Yes, this is the Michigan Class of 09 thread!!!

About the sections...they wrote on the admitted students site that we may receive an email over the summer sometime with a tentative section listed on it, but we shouldn't go all berserk about it because we won't find out our definite sections until orientation.

Oh, thanks!

So, that means if we're assigned to section E or F we don't really have to show up at 8:15am on August 29th, since it might not be our correct section?  :D

not a morning person here, though I guess I'll have to get used to it because I noticed a substantial number of classes start pre-9:00am.  >:(

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Um, since this seems to be the most current class of 2009 Michigan thread--does anyone know when/how we find out our section assignments? They sent out the email today with the Registration and orientation schedule, and they do it by section, so it seems rather important to know in advance...did I miss something.

Also, FYI, I applied for the MAP loan and didn't have a problem--I signed all the promissory notes already and everything. I agree that the interest rates seem pretty shite for student loans, but interest rates are on their way up and I'm told that those rates will be looking pretty good by the time we graduate. Still, it's tough knowing that if I'd gotten my sh*t together and gone to law school a year earlier, I'd have a fixed rate of at least a couple percentage points less on the massive amount of money I'll be borrowing.
<sigh>

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Ann Arbor is serviced by AATA (Ann Arbor Transportation Authority; city buses) and University of Michigan buses. If you're 4 miles off campus, you'll rely on AATA busing almost exclusively. AATA buses come every half hour on most routes, and every 15 minutes on more popular routes. How convenient the AATA buses are may depend on where you live exactly. Check out the routes on the website: www.theride.org

I lived far off campus the last two years but was right next to a bus stop so it took me 5-10 minutes to get to school. It was kinda annoying that my bus only came every half hour, but you get it used to it I guess. Plus all buses (city and university) are free if you show your MCard.

The buses are usually 100% reliable, perhaps a few minutes late here or there, never anything terrible. My morning commute was sometimes really crowded, but it was only a matter of a few mintues. The buses are really clean and generally devoid of any really sketchy characters. They don't run past like 10PM, even on weekends (I believe) but after 5PM you can park your car in most university lots for free. I'd say a 4 mile ride would take 10-20 minutes, depending on exactly where the route was and what time of day... traffic in AA can be kinda bad.

Hope this helps, PM me if any more questions.

Thanks, it does. Not running past 10pm may be a major problem for me, though, since I don't have a car and I don't think you can use a bike very safely in winter (to judge from my experience of what I imagine to be similarly severe winters in Northern Vermont where I grew up).

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