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Job Search / Re: Maneuvering OCI with a 2.97
« on: August 11, 2007, 08:17:05 AM »
Isn't a 2.97 really bad for a T14?  Most T14 schools have a very high median ... generally around 3.2.

Job Search / Re: OCI Chances
« on: August 11, 2007, 08:15:09 AM »
My daughter goes to a T4.
She had 10 interviews, 6 callbacks and 4 job offers.

Get a f-ing life!

Current Law Students / Re: mediocre GPA/rank but on law review
« on: July 16, 2007, 09:31:48 AM »
If i have a mediocre GPA and rank (just outside of the top third) but i'm in at law review, what do my job prospects look like if i'm applying for biglaw?  i know a lot of these firms prefer law review/journal but they also want a high GPA/rank.  Is anyone in the same situation or know of anyone with a similar problem? 

Entirely depends upon your school. Law review at Harvard (or any of the top 10) will save almost any set of grades... at Cooley, not so much ;)

You can graduate dead last in your class at Harvard and still be employable. 

Current Law Students / Re: Whats the most annoying thing a 1L can do?
« on: July 12, 2007, 04:16:51 PM »
Which clearly doesn't speak to the question of why the rollie is necessary for a part time student who has at most, 2 classes on any given day.

Current Law Students / Re: Whats the most annoying thing a 1L can do?
« on: July 12, 2007, 09:03:44 AM »
Also whispering the answers or "no, no, no" to yourself  when someone is bombing being called on.

Being a gunner that incessantly and vigorously types all class long. Either get a silent stenograph or use a recorder.

Yes this is sort of the Belmont Stakes in the triple crown of being as annoying as possible.  I have the great honor of taking a night time summer class with alot of non-traditional 1L's.  My classroom neighbor may be the worst ever.

Current Law Students / Re: Whats the most annoying thing a 1L can do?
« on: July 12, 2007, 08:56:14 AM »
Raising your hand 4 times per class session and starting every comment with "I just want to be sure I have this right..."  (and then repeating what the professor just said).

Bringing cans of Dr. Pepper to class after you've spilled them twice and been asked not to bring them any more.

EATING IN CLASS.  Especially if you put the granola bar under the desk like nobody can hear the crinkle crinkle, when you sit in the middle of the front row.

And spilling that Dr. Pepper and NOT cleaning it up.  We're you raised in a barn?  I witnessed such a transgression.

Current Law Students / Re: Whats the most annoying thing a 1L can do?
« on: July 12, 2007, 08:54:23 AM »
I'm still trying to figure out why so many people are annoyed by roll bags.  I have one because I refuse to hurt my back; attempting to carry all of your law-school books on your back is quite stupid, if you ask me. 

Yes, I know that most law students have lockers, but if you work full time, you need to have all of your books at home, meaning you have to lug all of them to class every time you go.  Unfortunately, I don't have the "luxury" of being around the hallowed law-school halls all day long, where if I want to study a different subject, all I have to do is pay a visit to my locker.

Are you full time or part time? If you work full time I think it's safe to assume that you go to school part time. 

As a part time student, do you have 4 or 5 classes per semester? I would think 4, but maybe 5 including a writing class or some sort. 

Do you have all these classes in one day?  If the answer is yes, I can understand why you would carry all your books at once, but I believe the answer to this question is no. 

If you're going to school on a day when you have say crim and torts...what good are your civil procedure and contract text books? 

The rollie-bag is indicative of weakness and/or old-ness.  Both qualities are frowned upon in law school. 

Current Law Students / Re: what bag has worked for you?
« on: July 06, 2007, 01:27:19 PM »
Please don't be the person with the rolly bag who rolls over everyone's feet.

Second.  I contemplated an SBA run with a very simple platform: "Execute those with rollie-bags."

To the OP: any standard backpack with a laptop sleeve will be fine.  Lockers are fine, but the backpack is your friend. 

I have experience in brick and mortar education and with online education. I am about to begin studies at Concord University Online Law School, my 4th graduate degree, and am very enthusiastic about what I have already observed with regards to the results-based online education.

Not only is online education effective, but it also opens doors to people who would otherwise not have access to legal education. Online education is fully accepted by the public school teaching community. When will the ABA get caught up with the changes in instruction methodologies to meet the needs of modern society?

I have already written letters to the Georgia State Senate and to the ABA. I urge others to express their opinions about online law schools to state senates and to the ABA. I would also be pleased to participate in any efforts to bring about change.

I am hopeful we can work together to bring about change.

Dr. L. Sweeney

Ed.D in Curriculum; M.A. Curriculum; M.A. Ital. Lit.; online law student

I think your comments are right on the mark.... Just goes to show that it is not the school that determines who passes, but the individual.

I support Concord and their excellent curriculum, and really wish the ABA would just go away.

This is correct.  The problem lies in the fact that Concord has much less stringent admission requirements than ABA schools.  Because of that fact, Concord attracts alot of people who are unable to even gain admission to an ABA school.  It is likely that the people that "attend" Concord and do well would have performed similarly at an ABA school.  However, these people that attend Concord and do well are the exception and not the rule.  They attend because of very special circumstances that are unrelated to their cognitive capabilities.  This leaves us with the overwhelming majority of students at Concord who are essentially subpar. Sad but true.  Don't believe me? Check their bar passage rate.

I honestly believe that one day Concord and others like it will be on par with most ABA schools outside the very elite institutions.  That is not currently the case.   

People that call themselves doctors without a medical degree are egotistical blowhards. Same goes for people that use an initial for their first name.


Dr. O. Balsenschaft


Dr. I.P. Freely

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