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Studying for the LSAT / Re: First LSAT practice test
« on: August 13, 2011, 04:47:27 PM »
Earl,

The LSAT is about solution strategies... i.e. understanding when to solve the scenarios and when to merely create scenario templates.. or understanding when to diagram conditional statements and what said statements actually mean.  As such I do not agree with you.  I do, however, agree with you on BS little tricks that are termed solution strategies such as pinning ones hope on getting a correct answer by solely determining the logical force of a conclusion and picking an answer choice with the same logical force -- that is one example of test taking strategy does not really get to the heart of the matter.

The very first test one takes if a one has never seen the LSAT would result in no real understanding of how to solve a logic game or how to even approach solving a logic game. 

I also firmly disagree with you regarding the prosepctive law students studying hard for the test.  I have taught literally hundreds of students and there is over confidence that permeates the air.  Most students think the LSAT is just a memory game that can be crammed for right before test time.  Most students that I have run across think that they are just going to ace the test because that has been their experience through undergraduate.  Student EGO is oen of the biggest hurdles to get through. 

There simply is no real review of prep tests when a student sits down COLD and takes the LSAT (the initial test diagnostic)  from the three major prep companies that I have taught for.  In a nutshell, 1) it is to break the student down with the hope that they will listen and apply proper technique later and 2) (which I find stupid) a way for major prep companies to get a low starting score so that the point upswing can be calculated -- the lower the better. 

I do agree with you if you are talking about handing the student a printout and letting them know where their intuitively weakest topics are.  I also think that the first test is not a real indicator of true test taker weaknesses on specific aspects of the LSAT.

Even from my own experience the VERY first LSAT I took without any preparation whatsoever - I was lost on that test.  It would have served no purpose to go through the test.  The idea is after that test the instructor can then take a look at everyone and say --- ok, we are dealing with a serious bitc** of a test here... now lets begin at the beginning.

I absolutely disagree that taking the test COLD and not reviewing it WHATSOEVER is a waste of time.  It puts students on notice of what they are dealing with.  Up to this point these ARE NOT LAW SCHOOL students at all -- they are undergrad and up.  Before you take the test you have no idea what you are dealing with.  The point of the COLD test is to put you on notice.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: from untimed to timed?
« on: August 10, 2011, 01:59:22 PM »
From my experience timing should become a major issue four weeks prior to the test.  I took a timed test everyday for about 25 days straight.  For some that might be a bit too much as I was becoming mentally exhausted at that rate.  The key is to spend half the day taking the test and the other half making sure that you know exactly what you did wrong on the questions that you missed.  No matter what take a break two days before the exam to regain your faculties.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: First LSAT practice test
« on: August 10, 2011, 01:54:58 PM »
I studied for the LSAT for approximately five months.  I worked through the PrepTests twice.  I was very good at reading comprehension but the rest of the test was difficult. 

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: First LSAT practice test
« on: August 10, 2011, 01:49:46 PM »
Check out my post here - http://www.onlawschool.com/39/what-should-i-know-before-taking-my-first-lsat-practice-test

I went from 151 to 177. I do not understand why anyone would tell you not to review your first exam. That is awful advice.

Why take the exam if you can't learn from it?  At the beginning stages, you should be much less worried about _how_ you do.... and much more worried about _how much_ you learn from the experience. If you don't review the exam, then you have just crushed your confidence and you have no reasonable idea WHY!

scenariosolver could not be more wrong. Sad that they are selling LSAT prep materials... scary.

I thought I would follow up on this.  Your very first practice exam - the one that you take cold - I stated that you should not review for it.  Too many students let their egos get in the way and try to get a better score on the initial one than is necessary.  I have taught the LSAT for over seven years - the initial test is one jsut to give you an idea of the hell you are about to face.  The purpose of the test is really to scare you into studying for it hardcore.  If you have never seen the LSAT before and you sit down cold and take it, it is really not that helpful to go through the test and figure out what you have done wrong as you have NO idea of any solution strategies at that point.  Once you begin preparation then you must absolutely go through the test and understand what you have done wrong.  I have taught for three of the major prep companies and I can tell you that a review is not in order for the "cold test".

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Help with studying
« on: July 22, 2011, 07:49:38 AM »
WIth regard to Logic Games I suggest that you solve 3 to 4 a day and then fully understand how the game was solved correctly.  Too many test takers merely practice the test and then blow off the correct solution strategy.  Depending on your skill level it will take you two to three hours a day in the beginning to correctly work through 3 - 4 logic games.

Take a look at scenariosolver as I firmly believe that watching video solutions (rather than trying to pick up deductions from a book) are optimal when it comes to learning how to correctly work through logic games.

Tom

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Logic games books
« on: July 20, 2011, 11:59:31 PM »
All,

Books are not optimal for learning Logic Games.  Believe I have read them.  It is difficult to understand how deductions actually occur that lead to the correct solution strategy.   

Take a look at scenariosolver.com - for 13 bucks you get 30 days access to a video solution of every single released LSAT logic game in existence.  Any setup, any problems with a question.  It is a powerful and inexpensive tool.  I don't sell any books and would never care to.  Whatever logic game YOU have that is giving you trouble... you have a video solution at your fingertips. 


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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Logic Games Ultimate Setups Guide
« on: July 20, 2011, 11:49:01 PM »
try scenariosolver.com - video solutions to all LSAT logic games... you can see an actual real time setup of ALL LSAT Logic Games for 13 bucks.

Tom

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I would suggest www.scenariosolver.com - I offer a video solution to every released LSAT game in existence for 13.00 a month.  I truly want to get relevant information to students that cannot afford the 1,500.00 price tag of large test prep companies.  I have taught test for seven years for three of the most reputable companies in the business.  I took about eight months to record a video solution to every LSAT game released since 1990.  I suggest you solve approximately 80 to 120 games before you take the LSAT.

I suggest you buy a book from LSAC (any one of the four books with ten practice exams) attempt to solve a game in earnest, log on and fully undersatnd the solution to the game... repeat about 100 times.  You will roll through that portion of the exam.

Tom

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website is my username.

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I was looking online and found some skeptisim regarding merely five scenarios on the stained glass game.  I was busy and never looked back at the thread. 

My solution of this logic game is based on five intuitively solved scenarios.  Perhaps confusion lies in terminology - a number of additional scenarios could be created redundantly to wholly solve the scenarios.  I invite both of you to the video solution of this game on my website.  Merely email me and i will give you free access for a day or so for your review.  Who knows maybe you guys will endorse it.
 
I am trying to post it the you tube but it is a twenty-seven  minute video solution.  My you tube handle is arc87123.
 
My solution methodology only requires five intuitively scenarios to solve the game.  Additional scenario creation is inefficient and dare I say redundant.
 
On a side note - if any of you know how to acquire games prior to 1990 let me know as I would love to add them to my site.  I followed a discussion of one from 1989 and it sounds very interesting.
Take care guys and I will follow up this time. 

Tom

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