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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Are CBA schools a joke?
« on: May 21, 2013, 11:58:01 PM »
Duncanjp,

You are wrong in your belief that I am on a "mission to discredit CBA schools" (your phrase) but merely pointing out that most, if not all CBA schools fail and refuse to reveal employment statistics and first time bar pass rates. 

It is charming that posters like "Duncanip" would have us believe that their CBA education qualifies them to be practicing attorneys but their antidotal stories, while interesting are not supported by facts.  The hard cold reality is that many CBA never pass the California Bar exam and fewer enjoy profitable legal careers.   

Duncanip, please explain why if the CBA law schools are as successful as you  would have us believe then why CBA do schools refuse to disclose statistics for legal employment after graduation for their grads.  (Paralegal jobs for the CBA grads don't count.)

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Are CBA schools a joke?
« on: May 19, 2013, 11:52:00 PM »
It is not surprising that none of the above defenders of CBA law schools can provide employment statistics.

Hopefully anyone considering a CBA school will understand that if these schools had employment statistics to confirm their worth then they would release those statistics.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Are CBA schools a joke?
« on: May 04, 2013, 03:32:45 AM »

Let me again ask "CA Law Dean" to present employment statistics for his/ her schools recent graduating classes 2010, 2011 & 2013 similar to what the ABA requires its members to present.
http://employmentsummary.abaquestionnaire.org/

Please also provide bar pass stats for your school and the bar pass stats for other CAB schools.

Thanks.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Are CBA schools a joke?
« on: April 29, 2013, 04:29:44 AM »
To "CA Law Dean"

Thank you for entering this discussion.

Please defend your position that CBA law schools ate not a joke by presenting detailed employment statistics (not antidotal or individual examples) of the employment histories of graduates at your school and graduates of other CBA Law Schools. 

Please also identify the CBA Law School at which you claim to serve as Dean.

Thanks.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Advice on Deciding Where to Attend
« on: January 16, 2013, 11:02:52 PM »
A factor for you and all other applicants should be the attrition rate of a school.  It is telling if students  in mass transfer, quit or fail out of a law school.

You can look up,the attrition rates of the schools you listed on the below link and "hitting" "ABA Data".

IMO, all things being equal the University of Miami is the best school you listed.

Good Luck.

LINK
https://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/SchoolsABAData/SchoolsAndLocation.aspx?schoolinfo=schoolsandlocation&alphabeticalrange=allschools&geographicsearch=FL

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Law School Applications / Re: GPA 3.88 LSAT160
« on: January 05, 2013, 11:19:42 PM »
You can get a guesstimating  of which schools  you may be admitted to by plugging your gpa and LSAT into the top,left  box on the below linked website.

Goof luck.


LINK
https://officialguide.lsac.org/release/OfficialGuide_Default.aspx

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Law School Applications / Re: Am i on the right track?
« on: January 05, 2013, 11:11:10 PM »
In my opinion

1   you should focus upon keeping your 3.75 gpa and attaining a good LSAT score before you start to worry about where you will attend.  In my experience your  LSAT score mirrors your SAT.  If you did well on your SATs the you will likely do well on the LSAT but if you did poorly on your SAT then I doubt you will spike,upwards n the LSAT.

2.  IMO only the law schols that have the most competitive admissions put substantial,weight on the "soft factors".  The 2 law schools you mentioned (St.Louis & Chicago Kent) are bout solid schools and I believe that the determining factors are gpa and LSAT at both schools.

Good luck.

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General Board / Re: lobbists
« on: December 24, 2012, 09:38:29 PM »
You do not have to be an attorney to write a law or lobby.

Although a lobbyist does not have to be an attorney  many lobbiest are attorneys.

The only time you must be an attorney is to appear in Court on behalf of another party or to engage in the practice of law.


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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Typical 'For X GPA what LSAT?' type thread, only a Sophomore this year though.
« on: December 21, 2012, 07:31:16 PM »
If you are sharp enough to get an LSAT score in the 170 range then it it hard to understand how you received the 2.773 gpa last year.

Please also understand that the elite schools will give unstated preference to applicants who graduate from peer schools.

Good luck.... I hope you prove us wrong for doubting you.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Should I go for a better school
« on: December 17, 2012, 09:24:12 PM »
Kelli

Congratulations and good luck on your decision to retun to start law school.

The following are some random thoughts and opinions which I hope are helpful to you:

1.   If you are able to relocate then you should not limit yourself to Cooley.  I have known only one student that attended Cooley and his experiences repeat much of what you read on the Internet.  The most daming statistic about Cooley is in my opinion it's own self reported attrition rates which are contained in The linked ABA report that indicates 227 students transferred the heck out, 124 "1Ls" failed out, 33 "2Ls" failed out, 8 "3Ls" failed,out with an overall attrition rate of approximately 30% for Cooley students.   I believe that the Cooley attrition rate should scare you particularly when you compare it to other schools.
LINK: .....  hit "law school data" to arrive at cited data

https://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/SchoolsABAData/SchoolPage/SchoolPage.aspx?sid=151

2.  Good luck on the LSATs.  Be cautious however that many score much higher on practice tests then on the real thing. 

3.  After you have received your score then consider all alternatives if relocation is an option.  In my opinion Michigan State is a very good option for someone wishing to stay in the state of Miichigan.  If you can relocate then apply to schools near where you may wish to live after law school.  The below links provide good starting point for schools you should apply to.  As the above poster stated a high LSAT score will make you a "splitter" and make you a more attractive candidate than your gpa may indicate.  Also note that as a non traditional student I believe that your application will get a more positive read than a younger student ( yes, age does have some benefits).  I know that many law schools appreciate the sacrifices which applicants made to raise families.   LINK                https://officialguide.lsac.org/Release/UGPALSAT/UGPALSAT.aspx

4.  Be cost conscious with regard to tuition.  If you can relocate the look for grants by applying to a number of schools.  The below link will show you the gpa & LSAT numbers for  students that got money from from schools in past years.  Link for Michigan State              http://msu.lawschoolnumbers.com/applicants


5.   Note that the number of law school applicants is down for the 3 consecutive,year so that trend may be of assistance to you.

Sincere best wishes.




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