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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Fordham vs. USC
« on: March 16, 2007, 05:40:47 PM »
USC is kinda Overrated.  Bar passing 76% (6th? ). Only 
1/3 go to Big Laws according to my friend.(USC Alumni)
Not highly regarded other than LA.
Fordham is a good school.


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Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Hastings Admit Day #2
« on: April 09, 2006, 08:04:35 PM »
Although Current Dean Mary Kay Kane is a wonderful person,
she is the one who didn't send in the information
to USNEWS in 1994. (in 1993 Hastings was ranked 19th
ahead of UT).


 >:(
Mary Kay Kane attended the University of Michigan ??? where she received a B.A. degree in English and a J.D. in law in 1971. She served as Associate Academic Dean from 1980-82, as Acting Academic Dean during the 1987-88 academic year, as Academic Dean from 1990-93, and has been Dean since December 1993. She has been a visiting professor at the University of Michigan. :-\


 ;D
Dean Newton has strong ties to UC Hastings. After graduating from University of California at Berkeley in 1973, she attended UC Hastings College of the Law and graduated (Order of the Coif) in 1976. :D She returned to Hastings as a Visiting Professor for the school year 1994-95.

"I am honored and delighted to be asked to come home to my alma mater," says Dean Newton. "Under the leadership of Dean Mary Kay Kane the law school has made great strides. I am excited about the opportunity to lead Hastings as it secures its place as one of the best law schools in the country."

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USC vs. Hastings for California
« on: April 08, 2006, 06:21:44 PM »
Quote from UT Prof.



Nell Jessup Newton, currently Dean of the law school at the University of Connecticut, will be the new Dean of the University of California, Hastings, from which she graduated nearly twenty years ago. The Hastings press release is here.



Like many large, state law schools, Hastings has been treated badly by U.S. News; probably only Wisconsin has fared as badly at the hands of the U.S. News criteria that reward a school for being small and private. U.S. News to the side, I've often heard folks remark that Hastings is an underperforming law school; when you consider that it's part of the prestigious University of California system, and located in one of the three great American cities (the other two being, of course, New York and Chicago), surely it should be unambiguously top 20 or better?


Could Hastings accomplish what NYU did in the 1990s, i.e., exploit its location to recruit a first-rate interdisciplinary faculty? That must surely be one of the challenges facing Dean Newton as she takes the helm. As Dean Newton remarked: "I am excited about the opportunity to lead Hastings as it secures its place as one of the best law schools in the country." Many in the legal academy will watch with interest.

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: USC vs. Hastings for California
« on: April 08, 2006, 11:21:54 AM »
Unlike USC or NYU, I don't think Hastings even tried to gather correct and valid information for USNEWS.

New dean (Berkeley UG, Hastings JD) will make a difference. 

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: hastings v fordham v illinois
« on: April 08, 2006, 07:50:32 AM »
http://www.autoadmit.com/studies/ciolli/ciolli.final.pdf

New England

F> Hastings>I

NY,NY

F,H> I
Mid West

West Coast (CA, HI, OR, WA, OK)

Hastings>>>>F,I

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New Dean willl make a difference.

Dean Newton has strong ties to UC Hastings. ;D After graduating from University of California at Berkeley in 1973, she attended UC Hastings College of the Law and graduated (Order of the Coif) in 1976.  :D She returned to Hastings as a Visiting Professor for the school year 1994-95.

Current
Mary Kay Kane  She attended the University of Michigan where she received a B.A. degree in English and a J.D. in law in 1971. :(  She came to Hastings in 1977. :'(  She served as Associate Academic Dean from 1980-82, as Acting Academic Dean during the 1987-88 academic year, as Academic Dean from 1990-93, and has been Dean since December 1993.  >:( She has been a visiting professor at the University of Michigan, the University of Texas at Austin, and Boalt Hall.




From Leiter

Like many large, state law schools, Hastings has been treated badly by U.S. News; probably only Wisconsin has fared as badly at the hands of the U.S. News criteria that reward a school for being small and private. U.S. News to the side, I've often heard folks remark that Hastings is an underperforming law school; when you consider that it's part of the prestigious University of California system, and located in one of the three great American cities (the other two being, of course, New York and Chicago), surely it should be unambiguously top 20 or better?


Could Hastings accomplish what NYU did in the 1990s, i.e., exploit its location to recruit a first-rate interdisciplinary faculty? That must surely be one of the challenges facing Dean Newton as she takes the helm. As Dean Newton remarked: "I am excited about the opportunity to lead Hastings as it secures its place as one of the best law schools in the country." Many in the legal academy will watch with interest.

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 :D

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General Off-Topic Board / Re: Should I tell her?
« on: March 04, 2006, 04:07:38 AM »
 :D

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Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Hastings over USC?
« on: January 16, 2006, 06:32:30 PM »
[B - There could very well be some selection in which grads from Boalt and Stanford stay in California. It's entirely possible that the very best of those schools elect to go take the bar elsewhere (NY), and the relatively less qualified stay in California. Similarly, the weakest of Hastings could all be driving 3 hours North East and end up in Nevada to take the bar.

/quote]


Hastings' LEOP students hurt Bar passing results.

Without them,  Bar passing rates might be as high as 88%.

>In addition to its general admissions process, UC Hastings >offers admission through its Legal Education Opportunity >Program. In considering applicants, the LEOP Admissions >Committee reviews a variety of factors, recognizing that >traditional academic indicators alone might not be sufficient to >assess the academic potential of students from nontraditional >backgrounds.

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