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Check out the third page of this board - there's a pretty lengthly discussion of W&M with money vs. Vandy without.  Best of luck.

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Wait List / Re: GW vs. Vandy
« on: July 27, 2006, 11:40:14 PM »
I am from Georgia and did my undergrad at UNC, but honestly I am not certain on working in the South or any one particular area, so long as it is in a city and on the East Coast.  As far as type of law, I am pretty open at this point, I am most interested in Constitutional and International law.

I am mostly concerned with the type of education I will be provided, quality of life while in school, and how well that name will correlate into landing a great job afterward.

I greatly appreciate any insight you can provide into choosing between these two schools.

I also had the GW vs. Vandy decision and went with Vandy.  I'm pretty open about where I practice and just want as many options as possible; from the research I did, it seemed to me that a Vandy degree may travel a liiiiittle farther than one from GW (but I won't agrue if someone disagrees, it's just the impression that I got).  I've lived all of my days in the Midwest and Northeast, but I loved the atmoshere down at Vandy, way more so than GW.

Bottom line, though, is that either one is a great choice (at least I hope so!).

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: ND or Vandy?
« on: July 18, 2006, 12:38:58 PM »
I think it's really a tossup. Vandy is not clearly superior, since ND does have quite a few ties with some high-end clerkships and the OP is showing an interest in going to London, which won't be available at Vandy. Keep in mind that ND does not rank students and will allow you to choose where to interview for OCI instead of having companies choose you. IT may be the same at Vandy, but I am not sure. Honestly, I have heard great things about both schools, so it's really up to you.

FYI, Vandy does not rank its students either

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Wait List / Re: How late do schools usually dip into their waitlists?
« on: July 04, 2006, 12:08:19 AM »
I dont really have an answer, but an antecdotal "feel good"...

When I visited CU (Colorado) I talked w/a student about some of the schools I was applying to.  I mentioned Oregon, and she said one of her best friends almost went to Oregon.  She said he moved up there, had gone to class for a couple of days, and then CU called him off their waitlist.  Apparently this is where he really wanted to go because he moved to Boulder and lived w/friends for a couple of weeks till he could get his stuff moved.

I thought that seemed crazy, but I guess if you REALLY want a school...


These types of stories are the way it goes.  An empty seat is lost tuition.  Schools want to fill them, be it in June or the first week of classes.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Vanderbilt or W&M?
« on: June 29, 2006, 11:26:28 AM »
I thought I'd throw my two cents in since I may wind up in a similar situation.  I'm currently all set to go to Vandy but am waitlisted at Northwestern.  Much like the OP, I'm interested in business/corportate law; would face another $60k in debt if I got in and made the jump; and I loved the vibe at Vandy (where I went to admitted students' day), much more so than at Northwestern (where I only did the run-of-the-mill tour/class/meet with admissions).  In my mind, I've almost built up Vandy as some sort utopia and am uber-excited about going there.

However, all that said, if I get into Northwestrn, I'm going.  For one, as someone who plans on going the firm route but isn't sure about where I want to practice, I'll pay the extra money for a wider range of options and the decreased grade risk associated with the "more valuable" degree (i.e., I can not do quite as well grades-wise at Northwestern and still get the same job that I would have gotten at Vandy with somewhat better grades).  Additionally, I think you really have to step back and look at what each school offers and try to get away from "vibe."  Right now, when I think Vandy, I think sun, southern belles, cool new building, etc.; when I think Northwestern, I think nice setting, but cold, windy, sweatshirts for 9 months of the year, etc.  But none of those things are going to get me a job.  Just looking at the Northwestern calandar, I see that they have firm meet-and-greets this summer for incoming ILs.  Vandy doesn't have that.  There's more examples and, though I obviously haven't researched it, I'm sure there are parellel differences between Vandy and W&M.

Again, just my two cents, and best of luck with your decision - maybe I'll see you at Vandy on August 16th.

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Wait List / Re: Northwestern - Shortened Summer Waitlist
« on: June 15, 2006, 03:53:36 PM »
Yikes.  I just got this too. Jostling around with 300 other people for how many slots that open up over the summer? 10? I can't say I like these odds.

Realize that they'll probably get quite a few "Thanks but no thanks," plus some that stay on, get accepted, and don't accept.  Still, though, you're right that the odds aren't good.

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Wait List / Re: Northwestern - Shortened Summer Waitlist
« on: June 15, 2006, 03:51:57 PM »
Just got an email saying I'm on the shortened summer waitlist... 700 initial waitlistees cut down to about 300... Whooopie

Me too...sounds like I'll see you in Nashville in August.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Withdraw & Reapply Next Year?
« on: April 09, 2006, 09:48:19 PM »
I applied last year, withdrew across the board, and reapplied this year.  I'm really, really happy I waited the extra year.  I didn't even apply to Vandy last year, but that's where I'll be this fall and for me (a Midwestern who probably wants to practice there but wants to keep his options open) it's a great situation.  If I were you, I'd withdraw and aim for Berkeley/USC/UCLA next year - if it works out, great, if not, oh well, you had a year of fun and still got to go to a good school.

Best of luck either way.

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Can visits help your case?
« on: April 01, 2006, 10:38:43 AM »
I'm sure the answer varies depending on what school you're talking about, but can "face time" during a campus visit improve your standing on a waitlist?  Have you ever of cases where it's helped?

I am on 3 different waitlsits at schools I am dying to attend this fall, and I am trying to think of ways to distinguish myself from other waitlisted applicants.

Thanks for any insight on this.

I visited Northwestern, where I'm waitlisted, and when I had my sit-down with a woman in admissions she told me right off the bat that visiting definitely gave me a leg up on people who didn't visit b/c it shows that I'm sincerely interested in going there.  I imagine that other schools take a similar approach.  That said, while it apparently ups my odds, those odds are probably still pretty low.  But whatever helps, I guess.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USC + $12k vs. Vandy?
« on: March 27, 2006, 03:55:47 PM »
I'm sort of in the same boat as you, in that I'm looking at Vandy (and GW) plus USC (if they'd ever let me in...hopefully).

From the "research" I've done, it seems that a Vandy degree will get you to Cali more easily than a USC degree will get you to Chicago or DC.  If you're looking for a change of scenery (as I am, being in NYC), I'd definitely suggest Vandy for the (supposedly) laid back style.  I'm a big advocate of a scenery change from time to time and I'll probably be making the move to Nashville (where I've never been, hopefully April 6-8 go well) myself.

Not to hijack your thread, but what don't you like about LA?

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