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Congratulations on the baby-on-the-way!

As far as encouragement - I'd just like to echo the words about baby's first year.  I'll be 30 when I start law school this coming year, and I have two kids.  I love 'em both to death, but I am glad that our youngest will be close to one year old by the time I start school.  Four years in, it's become obvious to me that parenthood will never be 'easy.'  It is certainly rewarding.  But the first year of a child's life can be particularly challenging, and your entire family will likely find itself in transition.  If you were to take on law school and new parenthood at the same time, you could easily end up shortchanging yourself, your family, and your legal education all at once.

So don't be discouraged.  This year's LSAT score may have put you in good position to get a great start on both parenthood and your legal career.

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I'm still conflicted, but heavily leaning towards Tulane.

I encourage your lean.  In fact, I started to tell you I thought you should pick Tulane in my first response, but reconsidered.

Tulane makes sense for a couple of reasons.  But as I understand your choices, the best argument for Tulane comes from statements you made in your original post:

After much soul-searching, I have decided to follow my heart...

and

I have always wanted to attend Tulane.

and

My partner also loves the idea of living in New Orleans.

Obviously Tulane will be more expensive, and it's not a good time to take financial decisions lightly.  But it doesn't sound like you are taking this decision lightly, in any way shape or form.  You've already committed to making financial sacrifices by deciding to pursue your dream of child advocacy.  So I'd encourage you to freely choose the school and location where you and your family will be most happy.

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:( Sorry to hear that dude. Expect a quick response. Hopefully positive.

Yeah, thanks.  Actually, I called back this morning to follow up and was told that a decision had been made.  Sounded like the review process was expedited once they realized what happened.  Hope there's still some money left... guess I'll find out soon.

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Well, my fears have been confirmed.  Emory lost my application. 

It took four separate phone calls, but I finally got someone to look closely enough at my file to notice that several significant pieces of my application had been misplaced.  Fortunately it took just another few minutes of digging around before they turned up again, and were returned to my file.

Very frustrating. 

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As a total stranger, and a fellow non-trad looking to attend law school, here's my two cents.  I know nothing about those three schools apart from what you've just said about them.  But based solely on that, and with your family's interest in mind, I would absolutely rule out Michigan State.  Moving to a new place and returning to school will provide plenty of stress regardless of where you decide to live, and which school you decide to attend.  So for the sake of your family, I would commit to living somewhere you don't hate.

I think your decision should come down to Tulane vs DePaul.  DePaul offers more programmatic resources to support you toward your stated career goal.  On the other hand, I suspect there is plenty of need in New Orleans for child advocates.  If Tulane doesn't specifically emphasize child advocacy, you could still get significant experience in New Orleans with some well placed initiative of your own.

Just don't go to Lansing!

Just occurred to me that it might be more helpful if you knew more about my experience.  I am a nontraditional applicant.  More specifically, I'll be 30 when I start school in the fall, I'm married, and have two kids - one four years old, and another that is just 5 months.  My wife and I have lived in the same area for going on seven years, and plan to stay, so I'm applying to area schools.  Fortunately, I have some good choices in Atlanta...

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I believe the median age is 23

It's 24, actually. Or has been in the past.

I guess it's going up all the time, eh?   ;)

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As a total stranger, and a fellow non-trad looking to attend law school, here's my two cents.  I know nothing about those three schools apart from what you've just said about them.  But based solely on that, and with your family's interest in mind, I would absolutely rule out Michigan State.  Moving to a new place and returning to school will provide plenty of stress regardless of where you decide to live, and which school you decide to attend.  So for the sake of your family, I would commit to living somewhere you don't hate.

I think your decision should come down to Tulane vs DePaul.  DePaul offers more programmatic resources to support you toward your stated career goal.  On the other hand, I suspect there is plenty of need in New Orleans for child advocates.  If Tulane doesn't specifically emphasize child advocacy, you could still get significant experience in New Orleans with some well placed initiative of your own.

Just don't go to Lansing!


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By the way, what are the chances that the Admissions office might have lost an application? 

I applied in mid January, but have never received official notification that my file was considered complete.  This in spite of having contacted the office once in mid-late February, and once again a couple of weeks ago to inquire as to my status.  In February, I was told that processing an application could take a while, and that I could expect to be notified by email once my file was complete.  Two weeks ago I spoke to a woman on the phone (never was clear on who exactly she was) who looked at my file, said it looked complete to her, and told me I might still get that notification at some point along the way, who knows.  Having heard nothing since then, I called again on Friday (two days ago) and left a message for Arnita asking her to confirm that my app was under consideration.

I've talked to one other applicant who seems to be in the same situation. 

On the one hand, almost all of the most recent updates on LawSchoolNumbers have been rejections, with a sprinkling of waitlisteds thrown in - so in that respect, I'm sort of glad Emory hasn't called in the last two weeks or so.

On the other hand, I find this frustrating because my numbers (167/3.84) and interests/experience (went to seminary, and have an M.Div) seem like ideal fits for Emory's program.  I do think I could have written a better personal statement, but for the most part I'd expect to be an attractive applicant.  As things stand, I haven't had one communication from Emory that I didn't initiate myself.
 
It's hard not to feel like my application's been lost in the shuffle.  Anyone have any alternative explanations for this radio silence?

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You want brutal honesty? They call us "marrieds" and generally are shocked when we do anything but stay home and go to school (your social life ends when you get married, right?) No, there aren't many married people and, yes, there is a stigma attached in the eyes of the under 25 crowd. Also, no less than 5 people have made pretty rude comments to my husband. The very first time we hung out with 1L's, a woman asked him "Did you even go to college." On the other hand, we get along great with 3L's, so maybe it's just a few aholes in the 1L class. In general, we don't socialize with law students anymore.

Brutal honesty is great.  In fact, what you described is pretty much what I'd expect - especially from a student body whose median age is so young.  I've been to graduate/professional school once already, and while there I found one's life stage / family status (i.e. single, married, parents...) was far and away the best predictor of social grouping.  Nothing else even came close - politics, race, religion, socio-economic background, professional goals... whatever.


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A couple of questions for the Emory folk...

Sounds like you all really enjoy your classmates (for the most part).  How diverse is the student body in terms of age?  Are most students under 25?  How much company would I have as a 30 yr old?

Also - how many students at Emory are married?  How many are parents?

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I've lived in ATL for most of the past 10 years, and more or less expect to stay here.  I'm married, and have two kids under the age of 5... so we're pretty settled in.  My decision essentially comes down to Emory vs. GSU (though to be honest, I haven't heard back from Emory yet, so this could be an easier decision than I think!)

Anyway.  There are a several factors related to having a family that sort of incline me toward GSU.  But I thought I'd interrupt Those Talking Amongst Themselves long enough to get some info on the social scene.  Any thoughts?

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