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Law School Applications / Re: Economy and law school admissions -- tougher?
« on: March 12, 2009, 10:49:19 AM »
I think a lot of this back and forth between LawDog and his contenders is really about what law school should be all about (LawDog's position) vs. what law school usually really is (many of the others in this discussion.)
What Law Should Should Be
Law school should be a place for those who 1)have a genuine interest in the law and 2) are seriously considering the practice of law. I say this not out of idealistic reasons for the greater good of society or whatever. But, in reality, if you're not interested in the law, law schools gonna suck. As a 1L myself, I can easily assure you of that. I'm sure that even those who haven't attended law school know this quite well. Thus, for those bankers or last-minute uh-I-don't-know-what-to-do-with-my-life folks, law school will be a miserable 3 years. I believe you should be seriously considering the practice of law, because that's what your degree will most likely bring you - a law firm job, or government attorney, or whatever. HOWEVER, I don't think you need to attend law school dead set that you WILL practice law or do something that will even relate to the law. There are many people who benefit from learning to think like an attorney or wish to learn critical thinking, but will ultimately return to their original business. I have a few colleagues at school who were former MDs, police officers, psychologists, you name it. They may return to their old careers because that's what they want after considering a career in the law, but their life is greatly enhanced by the skill sets learned at law school - albeit that's an expensive price to pay to learn those skill sets. Lol. But some people are all about life experiences rather than the bottom line.
What Law School Actually Is
I'm afraid I will have to part ways a bit with LawDog. Law school admissions, unfortunately, is all too much about numbers. Where LawDog mentions certain types of people that each law school seeks, while this is true, I believe these situations serve as tie breakers between applicants with similar numbers. But, the guy with better numbers will virtually always win out (save a few rare exceptions that are so insignificant that you should never count on them). If you don't believe me, please read Anna Ivey's book on Law School Admissions as well as Law School Confidential's interview with the Dean of Admissions at Cornell. Now, the only situation where numbers will not always win is for URMs. But, alas, this is a whole different discussion. Because law schools are so numbers driven, you will get those academics who are just smart but they have no real passion for the law. You may even get bankers. But it doesn't matter, so long as they did well on the LSAT and GPA. If you want to read some interesting stuff on whether LSAT and GPA should be an admission criteria, you should read a recent entry on Above the Law that discusses a new proposed version of the LSAT. It tests the top skills that a practicing lawyer needs. It's basically a down-and-dirty lawyer aptitude test designed to sift out unsuccessful lawyers.
What Law Should Should Be
Law school should be a place for those who 1)have a genuine interest in the law and 2) are seriously considering the practice of law. I say this not out of idealistic reasons for the greater good of society or whatever. But, in reality, if you're not interested in the law, law schools gonna suck. As a 1L myself, I can easily assure you of that. I'm sure that even those who haven't attended law school know this quite well. Thus, for those bankers or last-minute uh-I-don't-know-what-to-do-with-my-life folks, law school will be a miserable 3 years. I believe you should be seriously considering the practice of law, because that's what your degree will most likely bring you - a law firm job, or government attorney, or whatever. HOWEVER, I don't think you need to attend law school dead set that you WILL practice law or do something that will even relate to the law. There are many people who benefit from learning to think like an attorney or wish to learn critical thinking, but will ultimately return to their original business. I have a few colleagues at school who were former MDs, police officers, psychologists, you name it. They may return to their old careers because that's what they want after considering a career in the law, but their life is greatly enhanced by the skill sets learned at law school - albeit that's an expensive price to pay to learn those skill sets. Lol. But some people are all about life experiences rather than the bottom line.
What Law School Actually Is
I'm afraid I will have to part ways a bit with LawDog. Law school admissions, unfortunately, is all too much about numbers. Where LawDog mentions certain types of people that each law school seeks, while this is true, I believe these situations serve as tie breakers between applicants with similar numbers. But, the guy with better numbers will virtually always win out (save a few rare exceptions that are so insignificant that you should never count on them). If you don't believe me, please read Anna Ivey's book on Law School Admissions as well as Law School Confidential's interview with the Dean of Admissions at Cornell. Now, the only situation where numbers will not always win is for URMs. But, alas, this is a whole different discussion. Because law schools are so numbers driven, you will get those academics who are just smart but they have no real passion for the law. You may even get bankers. But it doesn't matter, so long as they did well on the LSAT and GPA. If you want to read some interesting stuff on whether LSAT and GPA should be an admission criteria, you should read a recent entry on Above the Law that discusses a new proposed version of the LSAT. It tests the top skills that a practicing lawyer needs. It's basically a down-and-dirty lawyer aptitude test designed to sift out unsuccessful lawyers.
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