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If you're undecided or if your waiting for other schools, are there any problems with sending deposits to more than one school to hold your seats until you make your final decision.

Other than cost, not really
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If you're undecided or if your waiting for other schools, are there any problems with sending deposits to more than one school to hold your seats until you make your final decision.

Choosing the Right Law School / University of Utah SJ Quinney vs Depaul($)
« on: February 11, 2009, 11:23:30 PM »
I got an offer from Utah today and all I know about the school is the US News rankings(51) and the materials I received from the school. Besides Depaul(88), Utah is the highest ranked school that I have been accepted to. Based on my LSAT score I'm extremely lucky that these schools have extended offers to me. I'm interested in focusing on criminal law and both schools seem to have great criminal law programs. So far Utah has not offered me any scholarship money(their scholarships are not announced until March) but Depaul is giving me $20,000 with a 2.3 gpa requirement. I'm interested in getting the best legal eduacation possible and I'm really not too concerned about location. Basically, I want your opinion on whether the slightly higher ranked Univ of Utah(with possibly no money) is a better choice than Depaul. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: UT or Baylor?
« on: February 11, 2009, 10:42:26 AM »
As I said, I think it's about your feeling. If you want to go to Texas, even if they don't offer you a scholarship, you should go to Texas (supposing you can swing the financing). From what I've heard lately, by the way, the way to get a good scholarship at Texas is to turn them down for a good scholarship at another school (or make it clear that you're willing to).

I don't think that I was ever very set on going anywhere. I pretty much wanted to go to UT because it was cheaper and in Austin. It is still in Austin.

If I go to Baylor, that's the 6th Texas law school that members of my family have gone to. I can tell you from that experience that the ones that went to UT didn't fair any better in the long run. In fact, the most successful ones both went to a school that is ranked much lower than Baylor (South Texas College of Law). That is part of the reason that I think there is at least some flaw in the reasoning that people on this website have that you won't do as well in the future if you go to a lower ranked school.

I agree with the statement about South Texas.  Walter Umphrey, the man who built the new law school at Baylor, is from around my hometown (Beaumont), a Baylor alumni, & one would be hard pressed to find an attorney who has been more financially successful (except Joe Jamail).  I agree with you, go where you want to. 

Of course, there are arguments against what I just said about Umphrey as well.  I've thought about both sides, the pros & cons a million times.  At the end, I guess I'll just go with my gut.
The way I like to think about it is that going to an elite school is like having a rich family. I'm sure there's people who come from rich families who are morons that couldn't make anything of themselves regardless and people who were born dirt-ass poor who are incredibly bright and ambitious. However, all else being equal having a rich family will help you out in life. Being in a top law school doesn't guarantee anything but it hedges your bets.

In comparing Baylor and UT though, I guess you have to ask yourself what you're targeting for in the short term if you'd be just as just as happy in Dallas or Houston making 80k a year  as you'd be in SanFran/LA/NY making 120-150k than maybe going to Baylor and keeping your debt load low is the way to go. A lot of these posters seem to think that success in life is all about living in a major city and making as much money as possible if that's what you want that's fine but I don't buy into the notion that someones a failure if they don't do/want that.   

Also if you go to Baylor and lose your scholarship you'd actually be paying more than UT full in-state tuition for three years.
Lived in California and I have lived in Texas and let me say that $120,000 in San Fran/LA is not as good or at least not any better than $80,000 in Dallas or Houstan.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: third tier toilet Ranking
« on: February 06, 2009, 12:49:45 AM »
Texas Southern and Ave Maria. I applied to Texas Southern because I'm from Texas and wanted to apply to every school in Texas (just in case hell froze over and nobody else would have me)and Ave Maria because they sent me an invite fee waiver and I wanted to practice the application process before I went for the schools I really wanted. Both these schools sent me acceptance letters within a week of sending my application, which I found odd since it was only September. When I got the acceptance letter I spent HOURS combing through the internet to find one positive word about these two schools that wasn't published through the universities and didn't find one word. I actually went to visit Texas Southern and man is that place a sh*thole. Right in the middle of 3rd Ward Houstan ghetto. I know some colleges that are in bad neighborhoods, but usually they are a bright beacon of hope in an otherwise rough area. Not Texas Southern. It was all rundown and nobody in the front office seemed to care that I was a potential student that had been accepted. They just didn't give a damn. The students I talked to told me to stay away and the ones that didn't seemed like they were trying to convice themselves that attending wasn't the biggest mistake of their lives. Think I'm laying it on thick....visit their website and tell me that it doesn't drip with incompetence. Thank GOD that I eventually recieved better offers!

I posted this question in another thread but I think it belongs here. Basically, it is a choice between University of St Thomas in Minneapolis with full tuition or Depaul with $20,000 a year. In this economy I'm afraid of going too far into dept but Depaul seems to be the better school with the better connections. But St Thomas, from what I've read, seems very respectable. I think I should also state that I'm going to law school because I want to be a trial lawyer(defense/prosecuter) and eventually I'd like to be a judge so there is probably no big payday waiting for me immediatly after law school. Do you think the dept occured at Depaul is worth it? Also, I'm not too concernd about where I practice as long as it is a mid-size to big city so Minneapolis or Chicago would be fine by me. 

Wondering if anybody had some advice for me. I've been awarded a full tuition scholarship to the University of St Thomas MN and I've been awarded a $60,000 scholarship to DePaul College of Law. DePaul would be my first choice but their scholarship would be broken down to 20K every year not to mention the costs of living expenses ($38K est) so I would definately have to pull hard on whatever loan money I could scratch up. That means that I would be deep in dept by the time I graduated. The St. Thomas offer is better because of the full tuition thing and I do have 14 months of GI Bill money left over from my undergrad days. Basically, I want to know your opinion on whether I should go with the full tuition Tier 3 school or should I opt for the Tier 1 school and the dept. Also, does anybody think that I might have room to scholarship negotiate with DePaul?

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