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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Logic game section question!
« on: January 15, 2009, 12:50:22 AM »
This might sound silly to some or most but I've been having some trouble with the grouping game type questions so someone please clarify to me how to diagram this:

If y are not in the park, then either l or o, but not both, are in the park.

Thank you in advance!

Not y, then i in;
Not y, then o in;
Not y, then not both io in.

Not i and Not o are in, then y is in.

Remember, rule only specifies about y not being in the park.
So you can have y,o,i in the park.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: LSAC's PDF - Preparing for the LSAT
« on: January 06, 2009, 11:19:26 PM »
I am reviewing the free LSAT sample document provided by LSAC and cannot seem to work out the answer to a question to obtain the same result as that of question 7 on page 20. (refer to the following link for the PDF -

In reviewing the passage on page 20 for questions 6 and 7, based on my understanding of the problem, I don't seem to agree with the answer provided by the explanation. It seems as though none of the answers can be correct based on the conditional statements.

I narrowed the responses down to choice "D" and "E". Nonetheless, they are not a singular choice:
I came up with answer choice "D" having two possible combincations as described by the solution of L, Q, K, N or L, Q, K, P.

Similarly, I also came up with two possible combinations for answer choice "E" being M, Q, K, L or M, Q, K, P.

Based on the conditional statement's 3 & 4:
1. ...
2. ...
3. If N is selected then L must also be selected, but the reverse is NOT true; and
4. If Q is selected then K must also be selected, but the revers is NOT true.

I would appreciate if someone from the board would take the time to confirm that this is a flawed question or if I am misinterpreting any of the conditional statements.

Thank you in advance.


LSAC does not make mistakes. Right off the bat, your attitude needs to change because you assumed LSAC would have made a mistake. Good luck learning the hard way. 

Studying for the LSAT / Re: the Pattern of Reasoning vs Method of Reasoning
« on: December 18, 2008, 10:55:32 AM »
I don't differentiate between the two phrases if that is the only difference between the two questions stems. For example, "Which of the following describes the method of reasoning?" = "Which of the following describes the pattern of reasoning?"
One thing is that many times the questions that use the phrase pattern of reasoning, are the ones that ask for a similar pattern of reasoning.
Are you wondering about the difference between those that say "Which of the following describes the method of reasoning?" versus "Which of the following employs the same pattern of reasoning?"

Yes I am. Thanks. I should have been more concise in my query.
But your reply was really helpful. Thank you.

Studying for the LSAT / the Pattern of Reasoning vs Method of Reasoning
« on: December 17, 2008, 06:39:04 PM »
Can someone explain the difference to me please.

I am slow and need really good understanding of this from someone.

I'm going to assume that you know where you stand in terms of LSAT strengths and weaknesses.
So, 50 tests will take you or should take you at the very least 2 months, but since you have a full course load, look at maybe spreading the exams throughout the semester.

why not just figure out the game?

You might still be able to apply to *some* schools - check their individual admissions sites or contact them directly. But, your chances are slim, especially in places with rolling admissions who have already admitted a bunch of people before you've even submitted your app.

Also, judging from your earlier post, it seems like even if you HAD taken the test this Saturday, you were worried about scoring really low.  It's up to you, but you might want to consider waiting another year.  Take a few months and get the rest of your life back in order so you can focus on the test and what's required.  Lord knows you don't want to go into law school already on an emotional roller coaster... I think we all realize that the pressure of being a 1L is more than enough, let alone having outside problems to deal with!  You want your law school experience to be the best it can be, right?

Yes, I want it to be the best it can be.
Thanks for answering.
I'm currently compiling a list of all the schools with deadlines way past Feb.

Thanks for your concern. My scores weren't that low, but I am experiencing an emotional storm at the moment. It's so bad that I just cannot take this LSAT with the focus the exam requires.


I had to reschedule my LSAT due to major personal problems that have seriously screwed up my concentration and have left me crying for hours on end. I'm hoping to be ready for the Feb administration.

Can I still apply even though I won't have a valid LSAT score and deadlines for a big chunk of the schools I'm applying to are Feb. 1, 2009?

Studying for the LSAT / 4th time taking LSAT
« on: December 03, 2008, 04:43:39 PM »
I have on canceled and 2 very low scores not even above 140.
I'm taking it a 4th time and it feels to good to know that I will get another low score and kiss law school goody-bye forever.

This Saturday will be a pivotal day for me.  At least I will be able to stop studying for the LSAT and move on to something else in life.

I'm not sure how some people can get the LSAT, I just can't Call it emotional problems, stress, or whatever you wish, I just can't get a good LSAT to get into even a 4T school.

Isn't life grand.

I've taken two prep course and I still can't seem to "get it".

I have no idea what is wrong with me.

I have a 3.6 and graduated Cumm Laude.

This *&^% sure is weird. Hopefully, I can at least score above a 130 on this 4th and last LSAT.

Wish me luck!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: 3 More Days
« on: December 03, 2008, 04:30:36 PM »
A few more days and a few more prep tests...nothing feels better than taking the LSAT for the 4th time and not being able to break 160 on practice test.

Oh yeah, life has been good to me.  What about you?

This saturday, i'll get an even shittier score, maybe shoot for a 120 and send an application to HLS, YLS and SLS. They should let me in cause I'm a minority and I saved the world while also finding the cure for cancer.

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