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General Board / Re: Law School Debt / Should I Attend Law School
« on: July 07, 2008, 03:31:37 PM »
I can say I would never give up 80k / year... What tier law school will you be attending?  Because if it is a tier three two/three/four expect to make between 35,000 to 65,000 starting salary.  Perhaps your job is so boring that writing and filing papers all day would be thrilling.  Perhaps I am just in the lamest law office known to mankind. 

I certainly wish in my sophmore year of college I understood how uncertain the legal profession is.  If I had, I never ever would've travelled this path so far (or at least would have aimed far higher than my "anything above 160" motto).  Really though, how is one when they are 19 and focused on school expected to research law school so effectively?

I am quite certain I will have researched this field far more than any of my potential class.  Though, perhaps not.  Perhaps we are all of the mindset "despite all of the statistical evidence combined with anecdotal evidence and news stories, it will work out for me."

I think I now understand what a religous person must feel having realized how false god is. My god happened to be law school. 

Does the ABA recieve money from these law schools it unnecessarily opens?  Otherwise the over-supply of attorneys seems to be due to incompetence. 

Plans for rest of day: continuing to feel sorry for myself.       

I'll be attending a Tier 2, but it's the dominant school in the city where I want to live.  Because of that, I passed on three Tier 1s, in spite of the conventional wisdom that only Tier 1 graduates have careers in the law.  This will be my third career, and I created most of my own opportunities in the past two.  I don't expect that law will be any different, and if I believed that I were wholly dependent on Career Services or an alumni's pity for work as an attorney, I wouldn't have chosen this field.

All jobs have their drawbacks.  I love my job as an air traffic controller.  However, I don't especially like shift work, the uncertainties I have about my compensation and pension in a field where privatization will always be a threat, working for idiots who barely graduated high school and outearn me by $100,000, etc.  On balance, what I want is the strong possibility of making as much as I do now or maybe much more, with the chance to work for myself eventually.  That's what is important to me.  

That's enough for me to take a chance on law school, and I'm 31.  If this doesn't work for me, then my professional life still hasn't come to an end.

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General Board / Re: Law School Debt / Should I Attend Law School
« on: July 07, 2008, 01:57:12 PM »
I work for the federal government.  I'm giving up about $80K a year for three years, in addition to the estimated $60K it will take to attend law school, plus interest.

It is worth it to me to have a more portable skillset than the one I currently have.  It is also possible for me to run my own practice, an option I lack now.

I don't expect to fall in love with studying or practicing law every day for the rest of my life, but that's part of working in the real world.  If you're not convinced it's for you, then delay your decision until you know enough to be sure.

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The figure of sixteen months based on 1-2 brigades withdrawn every month after taking office dates back at least as far as October 10, 2007.  After being introduced at an event in Chicago by Ted Sorenson, Obama made a speech which specifically mentioned that number - long before he emerged as the Democratic nominee.  It appears that he has been advised that withdrawal at a constant rate of 1-2 brigades a month until reaching zero 'combat soldiers' is feasible (although it's not mentioned how many soldiers we'll need to 'protect our diplomats' and 'carry out targeted strikes against al-Qa'eda,' and how they will differ from 'combat soldiers').

Secretary Gates pointed out that withdrawal from Kuwait, following the first war with Iraq, took nearly twelve months under much more favorable conditions.  General Petraeus has said that it would take eighteen months to draw down half of the forces in northern Iraq alone.  The first is historical fact, and suggests that Petraeus' estimate may not just be for public consumption.  What can Obama do but trust the experts, once he's given the basic direction for withdrawal with the minimum possible risk to accomplish the goal?

As mentioned above, the difference between them is buying into the necessity of the whole thing.  Obama's a lawyer, not a logistician, and if it's logistically not possible to withdraw all forces but the undefined minimum for embassy operations in sixteen months, then the timeline will slip.  McCain thinks that Iraq is a good investment of blood, time and money, and will leave soldiers in Iraq to be an alibi for al-Maliki's failures until circumstances force him to do otherwise.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Pitt or Rutgers-Camden
« on: June 13, 2008, 08:48:27 PM »
I love Pittsburgh and the surrounding areas; therefore, I'm going to Pitt as it's the dominant school for the Pittsburgh market.  If you see yourself in Philadelphia after law school, maybe Rutgers or Temple would be better choices.

Good luck either way.

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Temple / Re: HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE WITH TEMPLE LAW
« on: May 09, 2008, 08:22:04 PM »
You had resigned yourself to attending the school without the scholarship.

If the money is that meaningful to you, tell Temple you won't be there in the fall, and why.  Ask the other schools if there are any openings left, and if there is any money available for you.  If not, ask if you might expect the same terms as this year if you reapplied next year.

You could always use their civil litigation clinic to take the Admissions Office to court :)

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