These class rank stats are wrong for my school, Chicago-Kent.
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I would generally agree the UIUC would be the better choice. The only thing you might consider is what happens if you are not in the top 40% of UIUC's class. There cut-off for BIGLAW might be a bit higher/lower, but it probably is around there. At Kent you have more opportunities to work PT and secure employment, rather than go exclusively through OCI.
I would disagree.
I would generally agree the UIUC would be the better choice. The only thing you might consider is what happens if you are not in the top 40% of UIUC's class. UICU's cut-off for BIGLAW might be a bit higher/lower, but it probably is around there. At Kent you have more opportunities to work PT and secure employment, rather than go exclusively through OCI. Also, how much is each school giving you?
If it is not substantially more, and you feel like you can live in Champagne, then UIUC is probably the better choice.
As a (soon-to-be) graduate of Kent, I have seen many IP students. The ones with Ph.D.'s or other technical/advanced degrees seem to get IP jobs fairly easily. The market in Chicago is big for patent law, if that is what you were thinking. I also think Kent is better than MD-B--nationally and regionally.
« on: May 05, 2008, 10:40:14 PM »
IU's reputation isn't demonstrably better in Chicago than Kent or DePaul. I don't know where most of their graduates place, but I think that it would be, at best, a little less competitive (job-market-wise). Other than that, I would say, if you want to practice in Chicago, it makes much more sense to go to Kent or DePaul, especially given the opportunities to work during the school year.
I passed up more money at DePaul to attend Kent--and I have no regrets.
I also knew I wanted to be in Chicago, and I didn't even apply to IU.
The idea of "strong connections" at a D.A. office is nothing to sneeze at, but it also could be said for many schools--since there aren't as many BIGLAW jobs available, T2 grads end up at places like the DAs office. I wouldn't go to SJ b/c of these connections. Kent has many comparable connections and even greater opportunities for externships (which can lead to clerkships and BIGLAW jobs). I can't speak to SJ, though--so I have nothing to which I can compare CK.
Also, the idea that you cannot work in NY with a CK degree is not true. I acknowledge that it would be difficult, and, of course, it depends on many factors, but I do know people working there/got offers there. I do not know a single person from SJ's that works in Chicago--but that doesn't mean it can't happen. Either way--you should go where you want to practice.
You should go to the school based on where you want to practice. Both schools are regional--and I think Kent's reputation is stronger in Chicago than St. John's is in NY, but I could be wrong about that. Kent is considered 'the best' after UC and NU.
Hi quinty55, can you tell me a little (or a lot, if you have the time) about the surrounding neighborhoods? I'm currently in California and I will have to look for housing remotely so I can't check it out for myself. I've never been to Chicago either, so any info would be awesome. Thanks!
There are many neighborhoods throughout Chicago. In my personal opinion, I like staying East of the Highway, including the following neighborhoods:
1. River North. This neighborhood is probably the most active of all the neighborhoods in terms of nightlife. It is expensive but close to Kent. There are lots of restaurants, shops, and bars/clubs to go to (not that you will have time 1L year). [Location: North of the River, and to around Chicago Ave.]
2. The Gold Coast. This neighborhood is just north and east of River North, and it can be affordable, depending on where you live. It has many bus routes that run into the city--some even coming right to Kent. It also has lots of restuarants and bars. There is no green space, however. [North of Chicago Ave., East of Michigan]
3. Lincoln Park. Lincoln park is a great neighborhood, though it does have its share of yupppies. It can be very affordable and offers a slower pace and less traffic than River North or the Gold Coast--not to mention much more green space. [East of Ashland, North of Armitage]
4. Old Town. This is a terrific neighborhood--though rental housing is harder to come by than in the other areas. There is a lot to do in Old Town, including theater, movies, bars, restaurants, comedy clubs, etc. It is a quiet and family-oriented neighborhood (at least Old Town Triangle, which is part of old town http://www.oldtowntriangle.com/) [Old town runs from just south of Division to Armitage--Old town triangle is basically runs Just north of North Ave. to Armitage]
5. Lakeview includes Wrigelyville (where the Cubs play) and boystown. Many women live there because it is "safe." I would not recommend living around Wrigely because for 3 months you have annoying drunkards hanging around your stoop.
The West Loop is also a viable option, and probably the closest to Kent. This includes Greektown--but it is not a particularly lively area. I would highly recommend NOT living in presidential towers. I knew several people who lived there and it seemed awful. It is essentially a large complex next to Kent; but because it is located in the loop, you are isolated from everything else and everything closes early and nothing is open on the weekends.
West of the highway there is bucktown and wicker park--they have lots of restuarants and shops, and are very affordable. The difference is the atmosphere, which takes on an "alternative" feeling. To be honest, though, the people there can be just as bothersome as in say, Lincoln Park or the Gold Coast, it's just a matter of deciding who you like better.
PM me with more questions.
Sounds good enough to me. Another question, pc or mac? I know that some schools have software that's compatible with macs for exams. How is it at Chicago-Kent?
I have a PC, and Kent's system is better if used with a PC. Macs do not get wireless (for now) and have to run bootcamp to log onto the network (I think). Don't necessarily buy the computer they tell you--usually it's a crappy, but affordable, Dell.
Why attend Kent if 85%+ of the school might not get a job.
Why write when you can't read. I said you should be in the top 5-15% to get a job in BIGLAW--not ANY job. Most students find jobs. There are also some outliers who don't have those stats but get into BIGLAW. There are certain opportunities that the school has for students that can lead to BIGLAW jobs, regardless of rank.
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