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General Board / Re: Anybody post from ROM Law?
« on: November 21, 2006, 12:26:23 AM »
I apologize and retract my comment.  After reviewing Cheryl's transcript and other evidence, I have no reason to believe that she is a shill for ROM law.  I apologize for dirtying her illustrious name, and wish her the best of luck at her law school.

Wow,  you must certainly have been impressed with ROM law.  So much so, that you joined this message board solely to post about it. 

Readers, this person is a SHILL
SHILL noun
1.   a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.
2.   a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.

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General Board / Re: Anybody post from ROM Law?
« on: November 20, 2006, 10:27:08 PM »
Wow,  you must certainly have been impressed with ROM law.  So much so, that you joined this message board solely to post about it. 

Readers, this person is a SHILL
SHILL noun
1.   a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, etc.
2.   a person who publicizes or praises something or someone for reasons of self-interest, personal profit, or friendship or loyalty.

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Law Firms / Re: A Must Have for Today's Lawyers!
« on: November 17, 2006, 03:04:13 AM »
Isn't this a moderated board?  can someone erase this SPAM!?!?!?

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Law Firms / Re: Does age limit law career options?
« on: November 17, 2006, 03:02:31 AM »
Age can only help. Two of the offers I have for a summer associate position are from firms who ONLY interview candidates with work experience prior to law school. Apparently more and more firms are doing this. Most of my 2L classmates who don't have offers at the moment went straight through undergrad to law school and are quite young. Age and experience are a definite plus.

Are you high?  Of course age can hurt.  Some of these places don't give a @#!* about your work experience, they just want young strong-backed workers, preferably white and male (once they've filled their quotas).  Who do you think a firm can squeeze more blood out of?  A 25 year old, or a 33 year old?  Who on average is going to have more health problems?  Who might start being more concerned about his or her children or spouse?  It's rotten and illegal, but some of these firms do it anyhow! 

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Law Firms / Re: How important is the name really?
« on: November 17, 2006, 02:54:02 AM »
The The American Lawyer's 2005 Midlevel Associates Survey has Cravath at an average of 60.6 hours BILLED per week, and Wachtel at 62.5 average hours BILLED per week.  lets assume 2 weeks vacation - not even used in calculating the average, and you still get 50x60.6 = 3,030 which is > 3,000.  That's all the math I can handle for now. 

So as hard as that is for you to imagine, and no matter how many irrelevant anecdotal stories you want to bring up ("my grandpa's old war buddy used to have a houseboy who had a side job cleaning the offices of Jones Day's San Diego office, and he said they usually only worked 2,245 hours a year", etc.), there are SOME ATTORNEYS WHO BILL OVER 3,000 hours a year. Admittedly, these are 3nd-5th year, but I have a hard time imagining that all the 1st and 2nd years aren't up there next to them.  You can claim its all padding or whatever else helps you sleep at night.

http://www.averyindex.com/shortest_hour_law_firms5.php


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Law Firms / Re: How important is the name really?
« on: November 16, 2006, 10:29:04 PM »
At one of my offer dinners I sat next to an lawyer from a NY Vault 10 firm who said she billed slightly over 3000 hours for two years in a row.
She might have been lying, but I can't imagine why she would do that at an event designed to make me accept the firm's offer.

 
Personally, I have to agree with Ruskie and say that I've never heard of anyone billing 3,000 hours.  Even at a Shearman etc. bonuses cap out at 2,500 hours I think (around $45K) so there's no reason to work much more than that. 

Also, just to reiterate about salary the 170-190K is the 135-145K base plus 15K in bar stipend and bar fees + 20-40K in bonuses.



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