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Houston / Re: Questions for Houston's 2Ls and 3Ls.
« on: April 03, 2007, 10:43:14 PM »
1) Class size varies by time and course.  Thus, I cannot really give a "typical" example.  Evidence, Business Orgs, Oil & Gas, etc. (bar courses) tend to be larger classes (60+).  Some classes (mostly practice skill courses) are small, 10-20 students.

2) The answer varies based on class size and professor.  Class size matters due to the curve (smaller classes have higher curves, making it harder to get below a C).  Professor preference for curving matters to (some professors give only a few As, meaning they can give few Cs or lower).  The general answer is "very few" people - less than a handful, even in a large class, will generally receive less than a C.  Student services provides the grade distribution for each course/professor.

3) Business Organizations with Moll.  Secured Financing with Moll.  Most of the Bar courses are sufficiently large and offered enough for space not to matter much.

3L job search / Re: Questions about Small Law in Houston
« on: December 05, 2006, 09:41:25 PM »
the answers to your questions depend on which small firm you go to.  I would say that generally, you should expect around $12-15 an hour at a small firm.  however, there are small firms that are paying summers at 1200-1600 a week (though mainly litigation boutique type firms) and clerks $30/hr.  Hence, the starting salary will vary greatly also (likely between 40 and 100k).  On average, I would guess that most small firms are in the $15/hr range and start at 40-45k a year. 

I love working at smaller firms (I've worked at 2 "small" firms, different as night and day).  You get tons of experience.  My suggestion is to blanket your resume and build contacts.  Professors, student organizations, clerkship (state judges love free clerks who will put in 10-20 hours a week) etc. are great sources.  The jobs are hard to come by (small firms generally tend to not have a summer "program" but I was at a small (fewer than 10) lawyer firm with a few other summer associates, paying a nice weekly salary) and tend to be "as needed." 

That said, find an area you like, utilize Martindale (though its outdated at times) or the Houston Bar webpage (firm listings with links by size) - - and focus on firms with practices that interest you.  Also, remember that your success rate on small firms will be quite low unless you have a connection.  Emailing or sending 50-100 resumes to firms will not be a stretch.  Getting an entry level position mainly involves getting your foot in the door, putting out good work product, and making the most of opportunities (including hitting your employer up for a reference at another firm that may give you a better chance of an associate position - they will understand).

Hours depend not necessarily on firm size, but on type of practice.  Litigation will be longer hours than real estate (generally speaking).  Small firms will also have crazier hours - really long hours at certain times, short days other times - because they do not have hundreds of clients and hundreds of lawyers to divide work around.

Good luck in your search!  Feel free to email me with any additional questions and I can try to give you more specific information (salary, hours, names, firms to try, firms to avoid, etc.)

General Board / Re: Job Search
« on: February 18, 2006, 12:58:27 AM »
NALP isn't really exhaustive.  Sure, you will get the large firms, but you miss the majority of the firms.  Try a google search for "summer associate" in Atlanta.  Better than that, search on martindale.  you can search by firm type, size, location, specialties, etc.  The info is limited, but you can call firms and get in contact with their hiring partners.

Houston / Re: Got My 1L Schedule!
« on: August 12, 2005, 09:18:56 PM »
hey y'all.  I just finished my 1st year.  This was my schedule...

Civ. Pro. ~ Ragazzo: (note: get the script for his class, he does the nearly the same thing every year.  He will grill you, but you will know Civ. Pro.)
Torts ~ Duncan.  Outstanding class, great professor.  She gives a practice test.  Take advantage of it.  She has a panel of 3 people that she announces each day.  Everyone else is off the hook.
LARC ~ Morris.  All LARC classes are boring, but Morris brings CANDY!
Contracts ~ Nimmer.  Good teacher, you can guess when you'll be called on.  You will learn a lot.

I envy those who have Mixon.  He's outstanding.
Crump (I had Crump for Property): Yes, you will sit alphabetically.  His grilling isn't so horrible.  The only time you would have to stand up is if you don't speak up (same for Ragazzo).  Can be a bit of a jerk at times.  Oh, but he sings and plays the banjo.  I think he has a talking puppet for Civ Pro.  Learn how he wants the test done, then do it his way.

Transferring / Re: Transfer to U.Houston
« on: June 26, 2005, 01:23:58 PM »
I just finished my first year.  feel free to ask questions.  Also, keep in touch with the admissions department.  It can't hurt to remind them how much you would like to attend.

Transferring / Re: Transfer to U.Houston
« on: June 25, 2005, 09:25:34 PM »
I'm not sure about 4L's post.  Maybe it was a joke?  or bitterness?
Many of the big Houston firms do not weigh UH and TTU the same.  Search NALP and see how many big firms from houston interview at TTU.  In Houston, most of the jobs go to UT and UH.  Baylor is next.  Then SMU.  Then STCL.
I do not know ANYONE who hides outlines at UH.  However, I can give you 2 sites where UH outlines are shared and posted.  check out and  When folks miss class, they can find someone to give them notes.  Study groups do form early, but they are not exclusive.
If you are trying to get a job in Houston, STCL is would be a much better choice than TTU. 
Yes, do come visit UH.  also, feel free to email me with any questions.

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