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General Board / Playing job offers against one another
« on: December 12, 2006, 03:48:22 PM »
Here's my situation.  I received a job offer.  I asked for some time to think about it and was given until the end of the week.  However, there's a firm I would rather work for which has yet to get back to me.  The end of the week will be two weeks after the interview.

Here's my question: Is it good manners to let the preferred firm know that I (a) have an offer, (b) would rather work for them, and (c) how have some sort of deadline?  Is e-mail or phone better for something like this?  Any idea how to phrase it?

Also, say Firm B (the preferred firm) says it's going to be, for instance, the end of next week.  What is the best way to ask for an extra week from Firm A (the one that gave me the offer)?  Should I say I'm waiting on another interview I went on?

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General Board / Gunner Bingo
« on: September 26, 2005, 07:37:36 PM »
Here's a great new game to play, perfect for those of you in sections where a big group has all their classes together.

1. Select Gunner- One, maybe two people per class.  Make sure it's someone who is a) talkative, and b) totally unaware of contempt that people feel toward them.
2. Select Words and Scoring- Around here, words change every week, but "bingo" is always the highest scoring word.  We have four words this week, but you could have a bigger list of words that stays around for the whole semester.
3. Game Play- Every time the gunner speaks, you want to be the next person to be called on by the professor.  This can be worth points as well.  The object is to use the words of the week in your comment/answer.  You do not necessarily need to respond to what the gunner said.  All you need to do is use the words.  You could also assign points for raising hands, and bonuses for using multiple words in one answer.
4. Stats and Prizes- Make a simple website or blog where scores can be updated.  You can award prizes, get a pool of money, or whatever.

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Socratic Method / "I don't know"
« on: September 18, 2005, 01:28:49 PM »
About a week ago, a kid in my Torts class got taken to task for dropping that little bomb.  Our prof told us a story about how he was called on virtually every day by his Contracts prof in law school (30-40 years ago).  One day he honestly had no idea about the answer to the question.  He answered "I don't know."  The prof moved on, and never called on him again.  This sounded great at first, but then my prof realized that "I don't know" meant you didn't have anything good to say and you had given up.  So his professor found a new teacher's pet.

Bottom line, even if your teacher hates "weaseling" (another on of my prof's pet phrases), it's always better to BS than give up.

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Indiana - Bloomington / Yahoo! Group for IU Law Class of 2008
« on: May 27, 2005, 04:34:02 PM »
Paul (no idea who he is) started a Yahoo! group for this year's new IU law students called IUOneL.  So join up so everyone can get connected.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Future Hoosiers
« on: July 01, 2005, 08:47:34 AM »
Since it's the cool thing to do, anyone else here going to IU-Bloomington?  If so, there's a Yahoo! Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IUOneL.  Same basic stuff as on all those group sites.  Or chat here.  I did my undergrad at IU too, so if you have any questions about Bloomington or the university, I'd be happy to try and answer them.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Summer Starters?
« on: May 28, 2005, 09:49:16 AM »
Is anyone else doing a summer start?  I.e. the programs where you take one or two classes during a school's summer session to get used to law school without the huge time-management demands?  I did one of these things for undergrad and will be doing it for law school at IU.  Just wondered if these programs were common at all.  Or if everyone decided they were not for them.

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I titled the thread like that because now that my options are now set in stone: Marquette full-ride, vs. Indiana full-ride + 8k/year stipend, I know what everyone will say.  Indiana requires I stay in the top 1/4 of the class, Marquette has no such requirement (far as I know).  I really want to end up working in the sports industry, so that's why this is a difficult decision for me.  I know most people will probably say IU, hang on for my Michigan waitlist, or reapply, so feel free to try and convince me, but other insight would be greatly appreciated.

BTW, money is extremely important.  Cost is by far the most important part of this decision.  I don't plan on making a huge salary.  So really low debt (and thus the ability to take a $40K/50K job out of law school or doing maybe a grad degree) is really attractive.

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Where should I go next fall? / Where would you have gone?
« on: May 06, 2005, 10:39:42 AM »
If rankings meant little (i.e. Harvard is prestigious but getting a law degree with good grades at any school meant you could pretty much have a shot at any job or clerkships in the country), and location was irrelevant (i.e. you could get a job anywhere in the country after law school), where would you have gone to law school?  Would you have decided differently than how you picked your undergrad?  And to people who are in their dream school, is there another school you would have looked at?

(Also assume you're a 4.0, 180 so you can go anywhere)

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Where should I go next fall? / What's your take on this?
« on: April 26, 2005, 06:42:49 PM »
I call IU-Bloomington to ask about my scholarship.  The receptionist says "two more weeks."  When I press a little bit about what is going on, she says "We're still waiting on some other outstanding applicants, so when we hear from them, we'll be able to make a decision."

Now here's where this gets confusing and a little shady.  IU-Bloomington has no seat deposits, rather just a binding acceptance of the offer of admission.  So if you say you're going to the law school, you're going.

So here's my questions.  What "response" are they waiting for?  Am I ahead of the game by making it very clear that I will not be attending without the scholarship, or behind the 8-ball because I'm not committed to attending already?  Basically is the law school trying to use the scholarship to attract students, or to reward those committed to attending?  And if the unwritten rule is that you need to have said you're coming to get the scholarship, does anyone find that a little shady that you have to commit to the school without full information about your financial aid package?  I'm not saying the scholarship doesn't exist, but what if they try to get the best of the admitted applicants to commit based on the possibility of getting the scholarship?

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I'm right now trying to decide between staying at my undergrad (the higher ranked of two schools) or going to another institution for law school (which has the program I want).  I'll probably be posting another "Help me choose between school x and school Y" thread later, but right now, I want to know: do you think it's a good idea to stay at your undergrad for law school?  Personally, since law school is such a trying time in your life, is having that security blanket helpful?  Or will it just lead to trouble?  My feeling is knowing the campus, the way the administration works as a whole, the housing, the town/city/cow pastures around the school means you are that far ahead of the curve when you start your 1L, and don't have to expend the time and energy to learn that.  Anyone else have any thoughts?

And this all assumes you liked your undergraduate school enough to stay another three years.  If you hated it, then a lot of these advantages go out the window.

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