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General Off-Topic Board / Prop 8 discussion....
« on: November 07, 2008, 01:44:12 PM »
First of all, I am sick and tired of people saying that the vote for Prop 8 in california, which passed overwhelmingly, is a sign of hatred.  It isn't.  You don't have to hate gay people to define marriage as between a man and a woman.  I'm already starting to see the liberalistic blame/demonization game being played, much as it is when it comes to Roe v. Wade.

Get a clue folks.  You do not help your cause by calling people who disagree with you hateful.  It is not patriotic to get your issue on a ballot and riot when things don't go the way you want.

I've got a little news for those who think small thoughts like this:  get over it.  If you want to get married and are gay, you can accomplish far more by creating a new term that allows you to have the same rights as straight married couples without assaulting what is, essentially and historically, a religious concept.

As a person with many gay friends (the guys call me their husband and the girls make fun of me for having a penis), I can tell you that even some of them are split on the issue.  Sure, they all want the same rights as straight couples, but every one of them understands two things that the radical homosexuals don't seem to:
1)  When you lose a vote on your issue, freaking out is harmful, not helpful
2)  The term 'marriage' is rooted in religious ideology and is, therefore, not likely the right path to take towards equal rights.

Prop 8 passed by a wide margin.  This should inspire those who want to have long term, legal homosexual relationships with the same rights and benefits as straight relationships to find a better angle to pursue.  Wake up!  When the civil rights movement started, there were plenty of obstacles and loads of negative results.  They persevered, modified their approach, and stayed committed.  They did not riot.  They did not start calling everyone who disagreed with them racists.

It is not a good thing to start calling people who disagree with gay marriage hate-filled, especially when such an overwhelming majority voted for Prop 8.  You CANNOT win people over to your position if you start by insulting them.

I believe in the rights of gay people to have committed long term relationships with all the benefits (and detriments) of straight marriage.  I think that gay divorces will help shape divorce law, which is unabashedly skewed in favor of women.  I think gay people deserve to be just as miserable as straight people who get married.

But I still am quite sure that calling it a 'marriage' isn't going to work.  Ever.

Change the terminology and you have a shot.  Riot, attack religious institutions, act like lawless out of control maniacs, and behave like petulant children who didn't get their way and you will fail.  The worst part of the strategy that is in place now is that it is creating more anger and resentment towards the gay community and proving the electorate that you don't deserve what you want.

Malcolm X preached violence as a means for change and it failed.  Then he changed his mind and made some of the most fascinating explorations into race relations in the history of mankind.  And was killed for it.  By black people who disagreed with his new, more peaceful approach.  And history shows that it was Dr. Martin Luther King who was more responsible for civil rights advances.

Wake up, California gays - stop acting like the law doesn't matter and everyone hates you.  Learn to behave like adults.

The fact remains that state's still have a constitutional right to make their own decisions.  The electorate has spoken.  Deal with it.  Inspire yourselves to adapt and create a new way to attack an old issue.

Proceed with the hatred of ol' Jeff.  I can't wait to read the comments that accuse me of homophobia and hatred....

Current Law Students / Need opinions - Family Law as a 1L?
« on: June 07, 2008, 11:00:08 AM »
Hello LSD-ers.  I need an opinion from you.  Snyde, rude, and obnoxious comments will be ignored, so please don't bother.  I need some advice, not to be put down, made fun of, or harrassed.  Yes, I think it's ridiculous that I have to preface this thread with that statement.  No I don't think it's silly to do so.

So here's the question:

I just completed my first semester and summer semester starts Monday.  I am enrolled in Professional Responsibility and Family Law.  So far, I've read quite a bit of the first classes readings and while I think Professional Responsibility is something I can handle, it seems like Family Law isn't.  From what I can gather, a working understanding of Con Law and Civ Pro are required to fully understand Family Law.
Should I drop it and just keep Professional Responsibility?  Anyone taken Family Law?  Would I be better served taking this AFTER I've taken Con Law and Civ Pro?

I look forward to your insight.


An interesting discussion at law school about summer courses resulted in two seemingly conflicting positions, and I'm curious to hear what others have to say...

I plan on taking 6-7 hours of summer school courses each summer while at law school.  I started in January, so I only get 2.  The idea is that if I do that, I graduate a semester early.  In my opinion, the sooner I can take and hopefully pass the bar, the better.  I'm a non-trad who started at the age of 32.  I got to chatting with some other one l's about their summer plans, and was surprised to hear some resistance to taking classes.
The most prevalent position was to focus on internships/externships/clerkships/etc. to gain experience, and only take summer school if they can make it work.
So which is the more correct approach?  Obviously, I think in my situation, and with the contacts I have in the legal world, getting out as quickly as possible is the best option.  I also understand why someone might be more interested in experience, especially for younger students who haven't held any real jobs down (I don't count working at best buy or burger king, I mean real jobs with real responsibility).  Should I concern myself with this much?
My plan is to take 6 hours this summer and try to follow my brother, an attorney, around the courts and help out as much as possible.  I'll probably do this twice a week.  Hopefully, that will get me some decent experience while getting me out of school a bit ahead of normal.

I am really not interested in negativity, argument, nit-picking, petty bickering, or insults.  If you plan on engaging in such activity, I reserve the right to :
1) ignore you completely or,
2) return the favor with nastiness and anger or
3) Call you names and behave like a child.
If you find yourself considering ways to make yourself sound smart or better than me, stop.  Understand that your efforts will be wasted.  You will prove the opposite.
Thanks for reading.

Current Law Students / Curve? What does that end up meaning?
« on: March 17, 2008, 11:45:30 PM »
Okay, so I'm at spring break, I'm a 1L, and I'm a few weeks away from my finals.
My contracts prof is the only one who gave us a quiz and a midterm, with the rest of the classes being final exam only, save for law skills.
How does the curve usually work out?
I'm looking at some terrible results in contract, which I'm working on, but as I understand it the curve is based on the relation to other students results.
Does anybody have any idea of how that breaks down?
For example:
class actual average (do most students get 60%, 80% etc of the total points?)/ How that relates to the curve.
Any data at all would be helpful.  Obviously, the plan is to do as well as I can, but I'm curious if anyone has any idea. 
It would be great if someone could share their test results (raw score) and how that worked out on the curve.


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