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Where should I go next fall? / USF or Syracuse?
« on: January 03, 2009, 07:51:42 AM »
Different parts of America all together. Syracuse is T2 ranked 100 and suppose to be going up in the rankings. USF is T3 and was dropped from T2 in recent years. I want to go to the school that offers the stronger reputation.

Between these two choices and without including weather as a factor, which would you pick?


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I have a bunch of books that are marked up and will probably not sell. I also have a ton of materials from Testmasters that I am not suppose to sell (no Ebay or Craigslist at least). I could save it but it takes up a lot of room and most of it is dog eared and marked up so it might not be of use to someone else.

If I did well on the DEC 08 LSAT and get accepted into a school on my list.....I plan on burning my LSAT materials in a beach bonfire while heavily intoxicated.

What about you?

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Studying for the LSAT / Distractions, all shapes and sizes
« on: December 17, 2008, 02:25:19 PM »
Lets start a thread specifically to discuss distractions while taking or studying for the LSAT. I am positive that all of us had had to put with a roommate, family member, friends, car alarms, street noise, crappy locations, time of day, loud neighbors, work, vices, the internet.... At least one of these things has distracted you... maybe all of them throughout your time spent studying for the LSAT. 

I had a loud roommate who was just a very noisy person. Its like he made noise just to get attention. Talked loudly on the phone, listened to music 24/7, always asked "hows it was going?" every 15 mins, and did countless other little things that were distracting enough to make my apartment a no study zone.

Since I have been out of school for 2 1/2 years I can't use a university library. I had to use the San Francisco main public library. The facility itself is very nice but the place gets flooded with homeless people daily. Every other seat or desk is occupied by a poor soul who can't help from talking to themselves or falling asleep and snoring or organizing their belongs for several hours while making enough noise to wake the dead.

I studied at this library for hours almost every day for several months and started to get use to it. I saw these flaws as strengths. If I could put up with this.... I could put up with any distractions.... I rarely went to a coffee shop or something because I needed either complete white noise or complete silence while studying. If I had neither one, then I could not concentrate. 

The worst day ever was right when I began to click with the logic games. I was on a roll when suddenly the Blue Angels flew over the library. The were looping around the whole city getting ready for their weekend airshow. I was sitting next to a window and spent at least 2-3 hours "studying" how cool the Blue Angles were. The whole day was wasted in the LSAT sense.

The last thing that distracted me was the internet. I am so used to checking my email or some other crap 50 times a day that I would want to read my email or check facebook in the middle of questions. I had to unplug myself when I went to study. No internet, phone away in backpack on SILENT.

What about all of you? What was or is the most distracting stuff that you put up with?

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Studying for the LSAT / Anyone enjoy taking the LSAT?
« on: December 12, 2008, 05:18:52 PM »
I actually started to like logic games..... They were like my daily crosswords after awhile. I won't miss any of the other sections though.

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Where should I go next fall? / Where is a good school to go for JAG?
« on: December 12, 2008, 05:15:21 PM »
I'm pretty certain I want to be a military lawyer. What schools can help get you into Army, Navy, Marine, Airforce JAG?

I'm looking at, Notre Dame, UC Hastings, UC Davis, Pepperdine, Boston College, U of Boston, etc... Schools ranked 20-60's

Thanks for any help

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I took the Testmasters course in San Francisco about 6-8 months ago and here are my opinions.

I scored 151 on the Dec 07 LSAT. I was very depressed and forked over the money for a class. My worst section was logic games, -18. The other sections were decent for a first try but certainly not good. I didn't really know how to study for the test.

I learned how to do logic games because of Testmasters. I have some negative things to say about TM in other areas but as for LG, the class was exceptional. Explanations on how to do set ups, how to identify game types, look for inferences and write out your work was done really well.

I guess it is hard to teach RC but they did a good job at describing the section and helping you understand patterns in questions and answers.

The LR was where I felt TM helped the least. Given that 50% of the test is made up of LR I was scared most by this section because it was easy for me to make stupid mistakes. Read a question or answer wrong, or fail to understand the stimulus and you are toast. The class spent hours and hours showing us how to diagram LR. A>B>C stuff. I found this sort of diagramming works well for a small fraction of LR but the time we spent diagramming LR was extreme. I wasn't learning anything except how to waste a lot of time in the LR section.

My 2nd and 3rd diagnostics were actually worse than my 151. I scored a 148 and 149 even hours after studying. I was doing better in LG and RC but I was bombing LR. I was wasting a lot of time and did not finish either LR section. I knew something was wrong with the way I was learning. I stopped diagramming any of the LR with exception to the most obvious and difficult A>B>C questions. I progressed better on LR by just doing hundreds of questions after questions, section after section. Eventually I just saw patterns and started doing better.

I had to postpone my test to later in the year due to personal and work related issues but TM gives you enough materials on the Website and in book form to keep going WELL after the class is over.

I never practiced under timed conditions and would break in the middle of a section if I got tired. I would generally to 10-15 LR Q's in a row than take a quick break and check my answers. For RC and LG I would do 2 passages/games in a row then stop and check. I didn't rush anything. I thought that understanding the material was more important than simulating the test. I could only complete a question as fast as it took the time to do.

The day of the test I finished all of the sections on time and had time to check a few answers. I even went to the restroom during the RC.

Anyway I score in the 165-170 range in simulated conditions, hope I scored this well on my Dec 08 LSAT. I owe my success in LG to the TM class but everything else was just repetition on my own time. Pick and choose from TM. If something doesn't work for you, than adapt and make it work.


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Studying for the LSAT / Anyone else have an undisclosed Dec 08 LSAT? WTF?
« on: December 10, 2008, 12:58:24 AM »
I went to take the test in Pleasant Hill, CA at JFK University. All went as normal until the Procter began reading the instructions. The room of about 12 test takers was told that due to security reasons, we were going to be given an undisclosed version of the LSAT. We were given the option to walk away and get a full refund if we inclined to do so. No one seemed to care much, I think everyone was confused.

My test was LG, LR, RC, LR, LG. None of the games anyone is talking about appeared on my test.

I don't know if this was the for the entire test center or just the room I was in. Did this happen to anyone else anywhere?

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