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Transferring / Where might I find a stats table to estimate class rank?
« on: January 10, 2012, 02:17:45 PM »
According to NALP, graduation cutoffs are given for a number of data points. However, I'm a 1L, so I'm not sure if upper level GPA's are relevant.  Anyway,

Order of the Coif:   10%   3.81   42
Summa cum laude:   2.0%   4.05   4
Magna cum laude:   7%   3.85   28
Cum laude:   50%   3.35          198
Other:   Chancellors   3.89   17

GPA after first semester: 3.70 

The school is curved to a 3.3. 

What is my class rank after one semester? Thanks!  I'm at a top 15 but was hoping to have a shot to transfer to CLS or U of Chicago. Not happening, right?

I get a tuition waiver at the University of Texas School of Law due to special circumstances. I grew up in Texas, but I am ambivalent about living there. I really want to live on the east coast. Assuming they don't apply my scholarship to living expenses, I'd finish with a debt of $40,000 after dipping into savings.  If they do apply my scholarship to living expenses, my debt would be more like $12,000. 

On the other hand, I have the option to attend the University of Pennsylvania for $140,000 in debt.

I know taking the money in this economy seems like a no-brainer, but I think I would be more comfortable in the east coast environment and, thus, do better academically (I'm gay and always take a lot of *&^% in redneck circles even when I don't say anything).  I also would like to have the option of working outside of Texas.  Also, I'm living overseas, so I can't visit either school. 

Is $100,000 in debt worth the prospect of a happier environment and better job prospects on the east coast?  The deposit deadline at UT is tomorrow.   

I've been accepted to UT with large scholarship and MVP with a smaller one, basically, two top schools. 

However, I received a General Discharge Under Honorable Conditions from the U.S. Army for "misconduct" several years ago. I've requested all the records the government has on me, and nowhere does it mention the specific incident for which I was discharged, so I assume I have the freedom to spin it to employers, and so I won't talk about it here. 

This was an Administrative Discharge, meaning no Article 15 or Court Martial.  I've already talked to the bars in two of the states where I might want to practice law, and they don't think it will pose a problem there (since it's not an OTH).  But what about legal employers?  I'm sure they will care.  How bad will this hurt me at the firms that usually hire at UT and the T14? 

I'm asking because I also have a few "Canada options" to fall back on, too.  How can I find out prior to taking out massive loans if my past will be a significant impediment to legal employment? 

Law School Admissions / General discharge from Army (misconduct)
« on: September 06, 2010, 06:30:45 AM »
Last year, I received a general "under honorable conditions" discharge from the U.S. Army for breaking a unit regulation prohibiting soldiers from certain activities at "hostess" bars in Korea. My DD214 just says "reason for discharge: serious misconduct." However, I have no criminal record, and otherwise, my work and school records are good (I'm currently working at a nonprofit organization somewhere in China)

I want to go to law school, and with a LSDAS gpa (3.93) and LSAT score (172), what are my chances at the top schools? Most US law schools ask about military service and type of discharge received.

My other thought is to go to the University of Toronto JD program and maybe even immigrate to Canada. I didn't see any questions about "US military" service, and both my GPA and LSAT score trump their median.


I'm afraid that even if I did go to a top U.S. school, graduate, get placed in a top firm, they would find out about my past and fire me when I disclose this information to the state Bar Association for the Character and Fitness exam.

Maybe my options are just better in Canada, given how easy it is to move there nowadays.

What about calling U.S. law firms and asking if this would be an issue?

Choosing the Right Law School / LLM, PGD, or nothing?
« on: December 12, 2009, 08:55:20 AM »
Will an LLM from the external University of London help me get admitted to a top JD program or in any way help my job prospects out of law school? (especially if I want to work for a UK firm in London, Hong Kong, Singapore, and speak Korean, etc.)?

I have a 3.94 GPA and a 172 LSAT, but I was poor and broke after college so I went to Officer Candidate School and enlisted in the US Army for 3 years to get GI Bill money for law school.

Eventually, I want to go to the best US law school I can get into. My numbers are high enough to give me a shot at the top 10, but many people with my numbers get rejected at Harvard, Columbia, NYU, Chicago, etc.

I've heard graduate work can improve one's chances of admission, and I have tuition assistance I can use for distance learning.

I'm looking at an LLM in Corporate and Securities Law from UoL or a Postgraduate Diploma in Finance or Economics (given what I want to do, both could have merit and I'd have to study them more carefully to decide) through the external London School of Economics (LSE).

I've heard BigLaw employers (both US and UK) don't have much use for LLM's and instead prefer graduate work in a discipline relevant to the legal practice, such as Finance. On the other hand, doing an LLM now could show initiative and a long standing interest in law, and perhaps an aptitude if I achieved it with merit (something that might be more challenging in a quantitative subject, for me).

Which degree am I better off doing?

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