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I notice that most of these schools have an agreement with Fleming's or some other company that requires its students to buy their materials.  I was looking at AISOL.  You are required to buy Fleming's Legal Essay Workshop which is $260 on cd.  For that, you will be required to write the 6 essays that come with the workshop that will be critiqued by (I am assuming) Fleming.

Now, I have been able to find the workshop CDs of an older version.  As with law books, nothing really changes and you can use older books plus everything is online.  So, I contacted the school and asked if I could use the older version.  I was told I could, but the essays would not be critiqued by "him." 

The school also requires you to purchase criminal law books by one of the professors and those you can't find used anywhere.

Do you think this is fair?  I mean, I am pretty confident in my legal writing abilities but if I am paying for tuition and part of that goes for someone to critique my essays, then my essays should be looked at.  If the idea is to review essays, does it matter which ones?

Distance Education Law Schools / American International School of Law
« on: July 06, 2015, 09:58:58 PM »
This seems to be a newer distant learning school.  Anybody know anything about it?  They are certainly affordable... Comparable to Northwestern.   They sent me the syllabus for each first year class which breaks down everything that is required and needs to be done for the class for the entire year.   It lists the books required and every thing which really is helpful to make a decision. 

I took the plunge and finally enrolled at NWCU.  While I thought I would be dishelved in trying to figure out how to manage the classes and the workload, I give them kudos for giving us a schedule to work with.  They break up the modules into 4 week intervals.  That is a good thing so you can always read ahead and see what is up next.  I already have the midterm.  There are cases to brief (of course) terminology to learn... and each subject has aboout 100+ words to know.  Their biggest goal is to get you ready for the baby bar which I do not think I am going to take.  I do not want to continue at NWCU after my first year, assuming I get through it.  I plan to transfer to a state school that does accept students who have taken their first year online.  I do not want to be a lawyer or practice law.  I will be 50 when I am done.  I just want to learn and do something else.

There are some good websites out there with free flashcards so I did get some of those.  They are uploaded by other students and you can get them for free.  I actually found some by a student at NWCU.

So, we will see how long I will last.  I want it to work out but I am not sure I can juggle all the work.  Torts and Criminal Law are not that difficult but Contracts will be the thorn in my side. 


This school is cheap.  The books are not current editions so for first year books, it will run about $250.  However, they are requiring you to buy the Home Study Survival Kit which was written and put together by one of the professors at the school (Fleming). I find this somewhat shady.  I understand needing books, but why must I be forced to purchase something written by a professor at the school?  It is a bunch of items to help pass the baby bar. 

Is anyone at the school and familiar with this?  I would like to hear some reviews of the school and if this package is worth the $525.


Distance Education Law Schools / California School of Law Orientation
« on: July 17, 2012, 08:44:17 PM »
Well, I decided to try California School of Law.  I had my orientation yesterday which took about an hour.  Talk about an impressive online program.  It took an hour to go through Moodle, which is the platform used to go to class.  It is complex and pretty awesome.  One thing that impressed me is that since we are attending online schools, we are rqeuired to keep a log of all our hours in class and studying law.  Cal. Law has a program where this is done electronically.  In fact, you MUST update your hours at least once a week, but would prefer daily. 

Before starting your first year classes, you are required to take a legal methods class.  The entire class agenda is online already.  All the homework that is listed in the first session must be done before class starts.  And let me say, it is not just a few assignments.  Brief 4 cases and do 2 exercises in CALI, which is another learning tool online. 

I was told that a student flunked his finals because he did not update his study log.  When he told the administrator that he had updated it, they could actually look and see when he logged into the study log and see that he was completely lying.  They seem to be very tough and require a lot.  I guess that is the norm for law school.  I am just wondering how in the world you can do anything else.  Law school is tough, but I do not recall Taft being as tough as this school seems to be. 

I am looking forward to this, but at the same time, with working full-time, selling on ebay full-time and trying to raise 2 teenagers, this is going to be a challenge.  Not to mention classes are 6 pm to 9 pm PST.  I am on the east coast so 9pm to midnight for me.  Yikes!

Okay...  seriously... does this school think it is the cream of the crop or what??  Here is my denial letter:

It is with regret that we inform you, after full and careful consideration, the Admissions Committee is unable to grant you
admission to St. Francis School of Law.

We appreciate the care that went into your application and want to assure you that your candidacy received thorough and
serious consideration. All applications receive an exhaustive review process, and as such, all decisions are final. We are
unable to consider appeals of any kind, though we encourage you to reapply in upcoming semesters.

Although there is no way to lessen the disappointment, know that this was a difficult decision for the Admissions
Committee to make. The majority of our applicants have demonstrated strong preparation for law school and the ability
to contribute significantly to the quality of our student body. As a result, we must select for admission those whom we
believe are the very best of an outstanding applicant pool and deny admission to many.

Denials of admission are neither negative estimates of your potential for the study of law nor indications of deficiencies or
weaknesses in your application. Rather they are the inevitable result of many attractive candidates for a rigorous
academic program.

Thank you for your interest in St. Francis School of Law and best wishes for your education and career plans.

For an online law school that has no statistics and has been around a year or so, they sure feel confident that they are better than the others.  My background includes 3 degrees and 20 years of legal experience.  I really got a bad taste for them when I had the "interview."  It was more like a job interview than an enrollment interview.  I probably didn't say the right thing but I was honest about the purpose of studying law and it was NOT to be a lawyer. 

Geez.... to get turned down by a fly by night online school has got to be the lowest of the   Oh well..

Distance Education Law Schools / Another new online law school?
« on: July 21, 2011, 06:02:34 PM »
At least I think it is new... I haven't seen it in any previous searches I did for online law schools.  I am going to a brick and mortar, but I was looking at online a couple of years ago.

Non-Traditional Students / Well, I got into law school...
« on: June 22, 2011, 08:46:14 PM »
I was accepted at Birmingham School of Law.  I live in the Atlanta area and Birmingham is about a 2.5 hour drive.  It's a Saturday program.  3 classes every Saturday.    They are a state approved school, not an ABA approved school so I will only be able to take the bar in Alabama.    Not a big deal for me. 

So, I will give it a try.  I have wanted to go to law school for a long time so now is the time to take a chance. 

Non-Traditional Students / Birmingham School of Law
« on: November 05, 2010, 07:29:33 AM »
Hi.  Has anyone heard of or had any dealings with this law school?  They are in Alabama and offer a night program or a weekend program.  They do not require a LSAT score unless your GPA is 2.75 or lower.  I know these standards seem below par.  I am an older student not looking for the best program, just a program where I can still maintain my current life but adding law school to it.  Their website doesn't offer a lot of information except the basics. 

I took LSAT but it was low.  GPA 3.69 plus I have a Masters in Law & Public Policy.   I think with my 18 years in the legal profession and my grades, I will get in, I just want to see if anyone has had any experience with this school.

Has anyone dealt with this school?  They seem affordable and do pretty much what Taft, Abe and Concord do but at a much cheaper price tag.   I actually talked to the director and the admissions director and while they were nice, I wasn't sure about the school.  What you read and what they offer are 2 different things.  I tried Taft... they are a joke....


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