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It's about time someone from a law school was honest with applicants...becoming a lawyer isn't a golden ticket.
So, I'm starting to think about OCI this fall and the fun process of applying to firms. I have two questions:
1) How do you differentiate between firms? They all seem basically the same to me. The websites all say the same stuff. Is there anywhere to do research on a firm's personality? What are the reasons you have for wanting to work for specific firms?
2) As a follow-up, everyone always says to be able to say why you want to work for a firm in an interview. What have you said in interviews? What kind of answers sound like you're intelligent and what kind of answers sound stupid?
So, I'm contemplating transferring to UVA, UMich, or Duke. I'm a 1L at a school in Virginia right now and obviously going to UVA would be the easiest logistically. My only hang-up, however, is that UVA doesn't do any kind of latin honors (that I'm aware of) and transfers aren't eligible for Order of the Coif. I've done quite well as a 1L without too much effort and a big part of me wants to transfer to a school where I can really apply myself and (possibly) have the honors to show for it. As far as I know, transfers are eligible for latin honors/OC at both UMich and Duke. All three schools allow transfers to try and write-on to LR. I'll also say that I like the lay-prestige factor of Duke. Duke would be the easier move of the two, but Mich is ranked higher. Granted, I'm not sure there's really that much of a difference in job prospects between the three anyway. I'm also interested in doing a federal clerkship (District or COA if possible-yes I know they are extremely tough to get) before working for a large or medium sized firm (100+ and not one in NYC...). I realize grades, school name, and journal experience are big factors in clerkships. At my current school (A T30 school), I'm already ranked high and will likely get on to LR. Prof LOR's would obviously be easier at my current school as well.
Given my career goals and other motivations, what are the pros and cons of each option? (Stay, UVA, UMich, Duke). Is there anything I'm not considering? Would I be crazy to choose Duke over UVA and Mich?
As a side question, will crappy UG grades hurt my chances for a fed clerkship? (~3.0, psych)
So I haven't been invited to LR yet, but I think I have a good shot (top 10%). However, I got onto a secondary journal this year and I think I have a good shot at becoming Editor-in-Chief as a 2L (and staying on as a 3L). I'm not really interested in uber-prestigious stuff and I don't want to go to a huge firm in NYC or LA or anything. I'm interested in mid-law firms or perhaps smaller firms. I'm thinking the EIC thing might be a cool resume thing, but mostly that it would be a good experience and give me some good leadership experience too. Plus, I could probably get a great rec/reference out of the faculty adviser since i'd be working closely with her for two years.
Anyway, am I dumb to even consider this? Should I just do LR? I will also mention that I'm at a T25 school and for the purposes of this thread assume that I'm not interested in transferring up.
« on: February 17, 2009, 02:06:11 PM »
I've done like 7 or 8 OCI interviews so far and part of me wonders whether I am just a 'filler' for many of these firms. It seems like they've already decided who they really want to bring in for callbacks, but they just want to make sure the person is normal. Outside of that, they'll interview some others to see if anyone wows them, but for the most part they already know.
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