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If you are accepted to your ED School do you withdraw from the schools that have already accepted you as well as the ones with decisions pending, or just the ones with decisions pending?

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Law School Applications / October LSAT Fee waivers and when to apply
« on: October 12, 2008, 02:37:28 AM »
Hey, I was wondering about when the fee waivers could be expected to start coming for the October LSAT (score release date is Oct 27th)?

I was hoping to have my applications complete by Nov 1. But, considering what my score is, I was wondering if I might want to wait a bit for a waiver (depending on how long that wait period might be). Also, I'm thinking I should get somewhere between a 165-168, would I even get many fee waivers with that score? Do all schools give them out for certain ranges? Or is it just some schools that send them out depending on your score (and I'd assume whether they want to increase application numbers)?

I'm applying to a range of rankings (example in Chicago)- Uchicago, Northwestern, U of I, Kent, DePaul, Loyola (free on LSAC though)

Information appreciated. Thanks :)

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I was considering applying to Northwestern Early Decision. Currently my LSAT is a 162 (retaking 10/4), everything else is great. Would applying ED hurt may chances for the regular admission cycle (possibly get denied or waitlisted earlier?). And clearly, this also has a lot to do with my second LSAT score, which I don't have yet...

Any thoughts on chances with ED are appreciated. Thanks!

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Recommendations / My LOR choices - sending 4 a good idea?
« on: September 22, 2008, 12:27:01 AM »
Dear LSD posters (and geniuses):

I have a few questions about my LOR choices. I am hoping to get into Northwestern or UChicago, although currently with a low LSAT (162- retaking on 10/4), but a good GPA (3.96), good post college work experience, graduated with honors, etc. I know, I know - this might be unrealistic, but bear with me (I'm applying to lower ranked schools as well). I have been out of undergrad for a little over a year.

First - if I send in 4 LOR, do they all get equal weight? I know many schools require 1 or 2, but will accept up to 4 and I wasn't sure the best approach.

Second (and very related) - is help with my decision of recommenders. Here are my top options:

1. My thesis advisor senior year (PhD Clinical Psych) who I met with weekly, advised me on my honors thesis, and viewed several related presentations (oral and poster) at different conferences. Speaks to my professionalism, writing, and verbal/presentation skills, but unfortunately I did not take a class with her.

2. A professor (PhD Social Psych) of mine who I did exceptionally well in his class (although we did not write any papers), and worked in his research lab for over 2 years (we have a good relationship).

3. My current mentor/boss at the University of Chicago (PhD Clinical Psych), where I do research in the Psychiatry Department. I know this is employment, but I have had to work on papers, and abstracts, so it should also speak to my writing ability, among other things. We have a great relationship and I manage many things at this job so I figure it would be good. (is this a correct assumption?)

4. I could also add (or have this instead of one of the above) one of my TAs from an upper level Sociology class that I wrote many papers for my senior year. While I received exceptional feedback (in person and on the papers), and received an A+ while many other students really struggled in this course, I did not take the time to meet with him out of class much, so I feel that part of the relationship is lacking - thus I am somewhat reluctant to include. But this would be a good offset to the above 3 LOR as it speaks to my writing ability, especially comparatively to others in the course.

Also, I live too far from my Undergrad to request the LOR in person, so I will be sending emails. Which might not fully allow for #4 to remember me...

Last question - which I hit on with my discussion of my LORs above. It seems professors are considered better than work recommenders. How does this relate to my recommenders and does the fact that I did not write any papers with #2 above make him less of a recommender?

Thanks for any advice!

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Law Firms / Job Prospects for Tier 2 Schools
« on: August 28, 2008, 07:08:56 PM »
I was wondering... I am applying to law schools, and planning to stay in the Chicago area. If so, the schools would be UChicago, Northwestern, Kent, DePaul and Loyola (I'm not considering John Marshall). I was wondering, obviously it would great to go to Uchicago or NU, but say I don't get into those schools, but went to Kent or Depaul/Loyola (all Tier 2, but did really well in my class) - would my prospects be alright for Chicago area law firm jobs? Would I have a much harder time getting a BigLaw job at these tier 2 schools?

Secondly, once I get my foot in the door, and say I get a job at a great firm, how much would my school matter after that? I hear people say that your LSAT gets you into school, but doesn't matter after that and your school gets you your first job but doesn't matter after that? Is this true? I would think your school might stay with you longer...

Or what about your overall impression of prospects T14 compared to Tier 1 compared to Tier 2? And how would your class rank affect these comparisons? Say, top 5% at Tier 2 compared to middle of your class at T14/Tier 1?

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Studying for the LSAT / 162 LSAT/3.96 GPA - Northwestern anyone?
« on: July 29, 2008, 10:55:51 PM »
Hi,

I took the June LSAT with minimal prep and scored a 162. I am debating retaking in October, but I have a lot of other work responsibilities. I was wondering if any of you are familiar with Northwestern and my chances of admission? I've used the LSAC calculator, but this only takes into account LSAT and GPA (summa cum laude 3.96 with several honors). I have finished a year post-graduation working at the University of Chicago in a research lab. Great work experience, working on an independent research project as well.. I know NU values work experience. Any thoughts on how much these aspects might off set my low LSAT score? I figure maybe I should just bite the bullet and retake, but I have many other things going on at the moment with extra projects and a very busy full-time job making it difficult to devote a large chunk of time to studying.

I was checking out lawschoolnumbers.com and that makes my chances look pretty dismal. Although, I figure there must be a bias for the type of people who log on and submit their information... Also, I'm not a minority. White Female.

Any thoughts or information is greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

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