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Studying for the LSAT / Two month prep for Dec. LSAT
« on: October 11, 2010, 10:54:10 AM »
It might be seen from a previous post that I missed the planned Oct. LSAT, but that it might actually be a godsend given my relatively lax preparation the last month before the test (and overall non-ideal preparation).

Volume-wise, I've covered a lot of material over the past year, though I can't say any given week that I trained intensely.  Without official timing, yet still not dwelling on a problem too long, I can consistently score 170+, with an average of about 173.  The week before the Oct. test, I got 165 and 168 on two timed practice tests, followed by a 162.  The 162 made me really lose confidence however because I'm aiming for a 165+ that is crucial for splitter status with my low GPA.  I got a 160 on the last Oct. test, and although this is a generally good score, I was quite disappointed.

It's become apparent that LR is my strong point.  I usually finish with 3-5 minutes to spare and only get 2 or 3 wrong.  Which brings me to two questions, one quite general and one slightly more specific.

1)  Now that I've covered a lot of material, read the bibles, done practice testing etc, how could one best prepare for two months of more concentrated study?  I blame my failings on a lack of concentrated study before the test.  One method for high scoring I have heard about is to slowly go through several LSATs and to write a sentence on why each wrong choice is wrong.  I'm open to this idea.

2) Like I stated above, LR is my strong point, which is great because its 50% of the test.  My games and RC are variable however, and the difference between the high 160s and a low 160 test ALWAYS seems to be one game or one passage.  Is there specifically any recommend techniques for the RC?  There is absolutely no method to my reading madness (I underline words with reckless abandon), I seem to get through in enough time, but my comprehension seems lacking on the extremely dry and convoluted passages (usually one stands out as the most awful).

Any anecdotal advice from somebody who scored in the high 160s or low 170s, particularly in respect to the one game or one passage which seems to be my downfall.   In two months time, what is the best way to prepare?  I feel like I have a good base of knowledge, as evident by my perhaps 165 average on timed tests with slow and steady type studying (0-10 hrs a week for the past year)... I need advice to fast track to the next level in two months.

Studying for the LSAT / DC testing center metro fiasco
« on: October 09, 2010, 07:16:04 PM »
So I missed the LSAT today.  If I wasn't on the fence between an absence and a stab/cancel, I'd be extremely pissed. 

Anybody who attempted to metro from VA to a DC testing center such as American or UDC definitely had a abrupt change in travel plans.  I noticed there was "construction" this weekend on the website, but there is ALWAYS construction on weekends, and I thought nothing of it.  In my experience it has always been intermediate stations closing that are easily bridged by a shuttle.  It has NEVER been an entire f***ing station, not to mention what is probably the largest station in the system, serving as a transfer for six different lines.

Needless to say they didn't mention anything when I got on the train, only when I was being forced off it.  At this time I was a little uneasy, but I thought finding a cab would be no problem.  Through maybe a stroke of bad fortune, or maybe just a total lack of cabs on a Saturday morning, I couldn't hail one, not for 20-30 minutes.

A simple phone call to a cab company or friend would do the trick, but of course I followed the rule that no cell phones are allowed to the test.

I saw at least two other people that were freaking out pretty bad.  Felt bad for them.   

Because I was on the fence, I saw it as a sign that maybe its just better if I study more and take it in December.  I was already disappointed at myself for a strong start to studying and a very lax finish in the last month.

Just wanted to see if this affected anybody else.

Studying for the LSAT / LSAT is only about a day away...
« on: October 07, 2010, 11:02:02 PM »
So here is my question.  I've studied inconsistently, I've gotten a 160 on a previous test and I want high 160s like I've tested.  I'm signed up for the test in a few hours and I've decided that my indicator between keeping my score or canceling is dependent on my "feeling" of the Games and the Reading Comprehension, because my LRs sections are pretty consistent, and to me easy on time.

The question is, lets say I'm in the first part of the test, and I bomb and Game or Reading section?  Has anybody just "walked out" on the break?  If I get a large snag on a certain game or reasoning I plan on a cancellation.

The test stays at your desk (from my previous experience).  So do they just grab the half-answered sheet if you're not there?  I ask this specifically because I have a fear of canceling a great score.  If I have a set game plan to ditch and run, why not leave at the break if things went sour?  Any ideas?

Studying for the LSAT / Kaplan "star system"
« on: May 01, 2010, 09:00:31 PM »
In their prep books Kaplan uses anywhere between one and four stars to rate the difficulty of each question.  In particular, does anybody know the relatively occurrence rates of these types of questions in the LR section?  E.g. 10 questions one star; 8, 2 star; 5, 3 star; 2, 4 star?

This might seem like a stupid question, and its obviously not quantifiable like the example above, but abstractly, do the "one star" questions happen considerable more often than the "four star" questions, or are they about even across the board??

Studying for the LSAT / Testing Center Location
« on: April 30, 2010, 03:38:00 PM »
I signed up for the June test way back in January.  Somehow the closest center to me was 62 miles away and without having a car this is a big pain.

This might make sense if I lived in Montana or Wyoming or something, but I live in the DC area (metro rider, no car) and I am shocked and appalled that I'm expected to go way north of Baltimore as if it wasn't a stressful enough day already.  I can't think of any region other than DC that would have more students taking the LSAT.

I've checked for a location change almost every day since then and NO LUCK.  Has anybody been in this situation before?  What are the chances they will open more (like they said over the phone)?

Studying for the LSAT / PT 23 Section 3/LR/#6
« on: March 07, 2010, 02:53:42 PM »
Prompt: The statements above, if true, most strongly support which one of the following hypotheses?

Correct Answer (C) The purse with the gold coins had been brought to the ancient city by a pilgrim on the route between Morocco and Mecca

Selected Answer (E) Pilgrims and traders in the ancient city were unlikely to have interacted with one another.

I don't understand this, as this is under "Inference" Study (Maybe this isn't a "Must Be True" answer, and that's why I'm confused).

The correct answer immediately jumped out at me as being the correct answer, however I thought it would only be 100% correct if "probably" was entered somewhere i.e. "had probably been brought.."

My selected answer includes unlikely, which I thought was important.  I do understand however that it goes too far with "interaction" i.e. it would have been correct if it was unlikely they didn't "interact with their currencies" more specifically.

I'm assuming the problem lies in that this is not actually a MUST BE TRUE question because of Hypotheses in the prompt. Would a good rule of thumb be to interject "probably" in every statement because of the "hypotheses" in the prompt. Please help.

Studying for the LSAT / Testing Center Location
« on: January 30, 2010, 10:32:38 AM »
Ugh.  So I just registered for the June LSAT and my testing location is 62 miles away (and I don't have a car).  I'm in DC so there is about a billion centers right next to me. 

I took it once before and got fairly close.  I can't remember how this works.  Will they automatically move me closer in a few months or do I have to call and do something?


Studying for the LSAT / Shooting for the stratusphere 170 or above.
« on: November 24, 2009, 08:32:12 PM »
I studied for the October test, was averaging mid to high 160s, and bombed the test with a 160.  I think my two issues where 1) I wasn't consistent in my practice tests i.e. I've scored a 160 once before and 2) I went through the LR and RC too fast.. having about 5 min at the end of both.

I was really hoping for a 165 or higher given my low GPA in a tough major (Mech. Eng.) (As a side note how the hell is a 2.8 at a top school in a major that most people aren't even mentally capable of the intro courses taken numerically in the same light as a 2.8 in a local community college for com. arts??).  I studied sufficiently but certainly not to the degree I could have for somebody hoping for such a lofty score. I was going to shoot for LSAT heavy schools like U of I, WashU, George Mason, etc. where a 165 basically gets you in.  Initially I was even thinking a school such as UVA or NW could be possible with my years of good work exp. and a 172/173.

Is there anybody on here with any advice on how to go at it all again.. and REALLY study?  I got a 170 on my first practice test after reading through the Bibles and it slowly went down from there, probably because I would answer more intuitively and not think about question type, ways of attacking, etc.

I'm planning on the June test which is obviously half a year away.  This is an extremely broad question but what is the best way to aim for a score such as 170 or higher in this time frame.  I've already done a buttload of practice questions (I suppose I have to conjure up new ones) but I suppose I certainly won't remember the right answer.

My current plan is to start in Feb or March because I can see myself running out of material starting with 7 months in front of me.  I guess I'm asking for a process of study i.e. a way somebody successfully went through the material and absorbed it fully.

I want to read the Bibles like a religious fanatic... perhaps that was their intention.  I want to be able to cite a relevant passage at will.

Bonus digression question: Has anybody gotten Adderall for the sole intention of LSAT study and taking the LSAT? I mean, as far as the symptoms go I totally have it.  Also they say in children if you're intelligent you can mask it well or completely.  I was a smart lil dude. I also feel like my undergrad GPA would have been much higher had I not the concentration and attention span of a cat on catnip.

Studying for the LSAT / Deciding when to cancel (Sept 09 test)
« on: September 28, 2009, 04:56:15 PM »
I have been waffling with taking the LSAT for a few years, mostly because I like my job and the economy is so bad. I finally took it this past Saturday and I'm concerned.  I was practicing between 158 and 170 (about 7 practice tests).. with an average of probably 165-166, the strange thing is, I started with 170 and went down almost every time which was puzzling at best and downright depressing at worst.

The games are my best but sometimes I'll tank when pressured for time.  I had two LGs and everybody seems to agree (with a few exceptions, lucky bastards!) that the airplane one was considerably more difficult than the EXP LG.  I CRUSHED the EXP LG... I think I was done and confident before the 5 minute timer.  I was nervous from the start about the 22 questions.. and sure enough section 5 was a 2nd LG.  I almost said f*ck out loud... in fact I definitely mouthed it.

I couldn't figure out the action of the airplane one at all (I probably got the first 3 right though).  I also couldn't answer the last few of the last section.  Traditionally my score correlates pretty well with my success on the LGs, and being the LG, you have a much better idea how you did. I probably got 6 or maybe more wrong. I really have no idea how I did otherwise.

Here is my question if you're still with me:

What is the benefit of canceling your score when most schools take your highest score now?  I basically need a 164 or higher or I'm not even applying (I have sub 3.0 engineering GPA) to get into some tier one splitter schools.   I'm not completely sure I got under a 164, though I think its likely.  It doesn't seem like it would hurt to see if I got lucky or nailed the other sections (even if that chance is under 25%).  Also whether you cancel or not it still counts as one of your three for two years correct?

Please help  ??? :P

Having atleast one university professor write a LOR seems to be the consensus.  I wasn't a very good student however, and wasn't on a buddy-buddy basis with many of my professors (usually just keeping to myself).

I have one professor from my junior year with whom I took a technical communications class (I figure this is more pertinent to law school then thermodynamics etc.).  By the time I apply to law school however, the class I took will be 5 years in the past.

I graduated in Dec. 06 and since have been working for a law related federal government agency which I feel really lucky to have ever nabbed the job in the first place.  I had a supervisor for 8 months where I learned patent law basics and I'm certain I could get a good recommendation from him.  Also, I am sure my current supervisor would only have good things to say about me.

My question is:  If I'm trying to enter law school in 2010, three years out of undergrad, how important is it to still have professor recommendations?  Would two recent, and very appropriate (My job basically consists of reading, writing, and interpretating lawyers) recommendations trump any needed university LORs.

My whole angle with everything is: high LSAT (hopefully), hard engineering undergrad, great work experience in a law related field for a few years, and an honest change in my priorities (I'm a hard worker now and save the drinking and fun for weekends as opposed to every day in college). 

Would it be wise to include the Junior year prof as well?

Thanks in advance for any replies.

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