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Current Law Students / Hospitality Suite Etiquette
« on: August 23, 2009, 11:09:57 AM »
Good grades at a good school, didn't do well in OCI bidding and want to get more interviews.

Someone tell me how resume spamming the hospitality suite works?  Walk in, chat up someone and explain you didn't get an interview + offer your resume?  Yes, I'm a social retard (sort of).

Current Law Students / Average number of OCI interviews?
« on: August 16, 2009, 03:57:30 PM »
What's the average number of interviews you're likely to get at OCI at most law schools?  T14?

Top 5% at T14, secondary journal, made a bit of an error in focusing my bidding on (mostly) very competitive firms and I only have 10 interviews.  Most of those are "reach" firms for ANYONE.  A couple firms that would traditionally be considered "safety," but I think that is an oxymoron ITE. 

How destroyed am I? 

Current Law Students / Absurdity of Firm Bidding
« on: June 23, 2009, 04:01:00 AM »
Stats: T14 (like most people who say "T14," that means I'm at a school on the less elite end).  Top 10%, secondary journal.  BA from foreign institution but otherwise unremarkable.  Interested in litigation as opposed to transactional work.  Interested in non-NYC markets, from the East Coast originally but no ties other than those I buy at Macy's.

Typically I would be sitting pretty for OCI, but this year is really a guessing game for everyone.  My main problem is that I have zero experience with this, and I just feel like reading Abovethelaw and Vault can't possibly be the right way to determine who I should spend my career with.  I'm looking to at least get rid of my debt (luckily under $100k) but, like a certain Texan, I don't want to go in with an exit strategy.

Thoughts?  Even if you just point me to more websites, that's fine.  For those of you who are summer associates or at firms, how did you differentiate the mix?  Or will this year be a case of beggars not being choosy, and we're all beggars?

Current Law Students / US Immigration Firms in London
« on: June 11, 2009, 02:57:55 PM »
Here's the scoop: my dream is to live in London and I don't entirely care what I do there as a lawyer.  The bad news is that I have zero, zero, zero interest in transactional law.  All the big firm US JD's there are doing transactional law.  I have the grades and school to do it but not the interest.

There are several small firm US law shops doing immigration work.

Does anyone know where these guys and gals come from, how they hire or any scoop at all?

Current Law Students / Concord Law Grad Sues to take MA Bar Exam
« on: September 11, 2008, 02:30:24 PM »
Oral argument video:

How will they rule?  I think facial challenge to the rule was the wrong way to go, in this situation I would have stood up and argued that I was educated as well as an ABA grad (point to the transcript and so on).

But he might make it.  The SJC has previously ordered that a Nigerian law graduate be permitted to take the exam after getting a US LLM (bar board had rejected him for the exam and wanted him to get a JD). 

Also it looks like MA may be in a bit of a bind because they direct by statute that their two unaccredited schools must be permitted to take the MA bar (equal protection problem?).

I know that the general advice is that so-called "bar" courses should not be taken for purposes of passing the bar.

What about for purposes of demonstrating to potential employers that you are competent in key fields or difficult subject matter?  I'm at a law school where I could literally take what I consider fluffy courses for the next two years -- and I bet my GPA would be pretty fluffy as a result.  Can employers see through this, or is it really just a GPA/Rank game?

I'm sure the culture of various firms is widely different, but it seems to me that a hiring partner would have very little problem writing off a well-qualified candidate (GPA, Rank, Journal/Moot Court) as "not a good match" or "didn't interview well," or another sort of subjective phrase.  She might not have any oversight at all from within the firm anyway.

Is this also true within the government?  Or is government hiring more based on objective factors with less room for the "hunch?"  Obviously we all know the answer in the Ashcroft DOJ, but what about more generally?

Asking because I have solid objective factors but didn't get the warmest reception for whatever reason at a government panel interview.

Current Law Students / GULC PT Careers?
« on: July 16, 2008, 05:37:25 PM »
Looking for first-hand advice (or your mom's friend of a friend)...

1)  Are GULC PT grads' opportunities comparable to GULC FT, assuming comparable grades?

2)  Would I be crazy to transfer from TTT FT to GULC PT instead of T20 FT?

Transferring / The Transfer Resume
« on: June 30, 2008, 05:41:54 PM »
Very happy to be writing this post -- I hate hate hated my 1L school and wouldn't go back.  Anyway, guys/gals, does your resume go:

        *  Class Rank: Top x% (Old School, USA)
        * Happy Award (Old School, USA)

Or does it go:


       * Happy Awards

My problem with option #2 is that I already have a transfer school (undergrad) listed, and this would become hopelessly cluttered.

Current Law Students / LRAP Strategy Question
« on: June 28, 2008, 01:46:01 PM »
Suppose I have a school with a very favorable LRAP program.  Suppose I have the funds to pay for law school out-of-pocket, but not without making big sacrifices.

Is it better to pay it (always better to avoid debt?), or take some loans and bank on getting an LRAP-qualifying job?

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