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Also, Harvard's buildings are significantly uglier than Y or S.  There are some gorgeous onces, but overall, there's just no cohesion.  Having said that, we do have a tons of them and our own campus, which I prefer to a single building. Still, if our buildings were people, you'd definitely regret sleeping with them as you walked home in the morning.

FWIW I thought the buildings at SLS weren't that great - reminded me of taco bell style architecture.

Although the main Stanford campus is gorgeous.

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Also, on campus housing at Harvard is atrocious when compared to Stanford.

I can vouch for this

How atrocious?  Is it livable?  I don't care as long as it's livable.

I wrote a long post about this before in the HLS 1L thread and I'll see if I can find it later but to quickly sum up:

its livable, relatively cheap, and some people like it - I'm just not one of them.  I've been spoiled by really nice dorms and these are kinda depressing (old, crappy furniture, delapidated, etc), very small, and have no amenities - my dorm doesn't even have cable (you can pay extra to get it).  I also drive so the fact that there is no dorm parking bothers me a lot.  But again, some people like it.

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Also, on campus housing at Harvard is atrocious when compared to Stanford.

I can vouch for this

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Steve, thanks for the clarification.  Also, can you discuss a little bit about the reading groups?  How do you get in one?  How does it mesh w/ the 1L schedule?  Thanks.

Well the reading groups are optional although almost everyone participates.  A few weeks into the semester you get a list of about 40-45 professors with topics.  I can't seem to find the list but this year (and I assume every year) it had all the big name professors there - Tribe, Fried, Dersh, etc.  You pick six if I remember right in order of preference and get assigned to one based on a lottery (groups are limited to about 10 people for intimacy).  You meet every few weeks outside of class (the group decides on a schedule that works for everyone) to socialize with the prof and discuss the reading (dinner, lunch, or dessert is usually served depending on the time of meeting).  Meetings are either at the school or at the prof's home.

I really liked my reading group - you get to know the prof, its a completely no pressure situation (i.e. if you have a lot of work that week and can't come its not that big of a deal).

There are also upperclass reading groups (for credit) but I don't know much about those.

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holy fishcakes, i can't believe i get to post in this thread. so it's yale or harvard for me (haven't heard from stanford, but i'm not sure i want to go back to california yet anyway). i have a feeling my life will involve a whole lot of pro-con lists in the next few months.

yale: no grades; close professor interaction; awesome for clerkships/academia; gritty (i go to school in baltimore now so new haven won't be bad)

harvard: bigger class size (more people = more happy); large class selection; opportunity for awesome joint degrees; cambridge sounds amazing

is there really such a huge difference in academia/clerkship opportunities between harvard/yale? and is cambridge infinitely superior to new haven? argh, i'm so confused.

I'm not sure what the deal is at Yale, but at Harvard you get a faculty advisor from the moment you start 1L, plus there are faculty led reading groups you can join that allow further interaction w/ faculty.  Yale's student-faculty ratio might be unmatched by any other school, but Harvard definitely does a lot to connect you w/ faculty.  Also, HLS's student-faculty is lower than that of Stanford I believe (too lazy to confirm).

EDIT: Double checked on LSAC, turns out I'm mistaken, so scratch that last bit.

Can Bass or H4CS confirm the bolded? The 1L I talked to claimed there wasn't really much advising and it sort of depended on your section. Your section is assigned an adviser, but your interaction with them could be very limited.

Each section gets a "section leader" who is one of the professors in your section and this prof will plan (or help plan) various social events and speakers for the section which he/she will attend (generally with the other professors for the section as well).  Every professor (at least every prof I have had) is willing to go out to lunch and otherwise engage in social discourse.  Around the middle of the first semester you get to pick a faculty advisor (which is probably what Denny Crane was referring to) from a pool of about 8-12 profs (they vary by section).

P.S.  The reading groups are awesome.

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That aside, and our political leanings aside I'm going to step back for a moment and assume that you have at least some semblance of respect (if not love) in regards to what this country stands for.  In this country we value hard work, we cherish ambition, and creativity.  If someone decides they want to use their high-powered education to make millions of dollars, never donate to charity, and use that money for nothing other than buying fancy cars and 500k watches who are we to say otherwise?  I may not agree with it, and you may not agree with it, but at the end of the day millions of people died so he could have that right, and to even suggest that the aforementioned right should be curtailed in the name of some vague "social conscience" is to spit upon their graves.

lmao.  at this point i have to believe that steve's messing with y'all.


i <3 you red

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That aside, and our political leanings aside I'm going to step back for a moment and assume that you have at least some semblance of respect (if not love) in regards to what this country stands for.  In this country we value hard work, we cherish ambition, and creativity.  If someone decides they want to use their high-powered education to make millions of dollars, never donate to charity, and use that money for nothing other than buying fancy cars and 500k watches who are we to say otherwise?  I may not agree with it, and you may not agree with it, but at the end of the day millions of people died so he could have that right, and to even suggest that the aforementioned right should be curtailed in the name of some vague "social conscience" is to spit upon their graves.

Like I correctly guessed/predicted, a Bushie who can only understand Thomasian jurisprudence.  :D

I prefer Roberts/Scalia thanks.

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You, Halfie and a belated, halfhearted "yeah you got me, I have an agenda" from whoever the hell "Last life" is does not add up to most of the posters...I wish we were the only ones who posted...it sure would have made for a funnier thread...


Hardly belated and half-hearted, though. I never pretended I was doing anything otherwise than flinging shite from the beginning.

I differ from those in that the prestige whoring and smug attitude bother me. It's about as worthless as me bitching about it on this thread, only there are real world implications in his case. And I won't fail to keep flinging those deuces he keeps dropping right back in his face (if for no other reason than that I'm a rotten lout, though with the perhaps "naive" and "virtuous" notion that he might one day pull his head out of his own ass).



pls explain

List the goals you have set for yourself post-law school. You can do it here, or just run them through your head. What does it suggest to you?

Also, I'm not expecting an answer to this. Play around with it for awhile; see what your priorities are, and what that says about yourself. 

I have some guesses. If I'm right, I'm a petty lout and you're a worthless, smug pile of sh*t. But I could very well be wrong. In that case, oh well, I'm still a petty lout and you're a contributing member to society that used that advantages that his degree afforded him to their utmost potential.

I prefer the latter.

I have no interest in working in finance or biglaw ever - if I did I wouldn't be here - I had plenty of offers in finance already.

That aside, and our political leanings aside I'm going to step back for a moment and assume that you have at least some semblance of respect (if not love) in regards to what this country stands for.  In this country we value hard work, we cherish ambition, and creativity.  If someone decides they want to use their high-powered education to make millions of dollars, never donate to charity, and use that money for nothing other than buying fancy cars and 500k watches who are we to say otherwise?  I may not agree with it, and you may not agree with it, but at the end of the day millions of people died so he could have that right, and to even suggest that the aforementioned right should be curtailed in the name of some vague "social conscience" is to spit upon their graves.

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You, Halfie and a belated, halfhearted "yeah you got me, I have an agenda" from whoever the hell "Last life" is does not add up to most of the posters...I wish we were the only ones who posted...it sure would have made for a funnier thread...


Hardly belated and half-hearted, though. I never pretended I was doing anything otherwise than flinging shite from the beginning.

I differ from those in that the prestige whoring and smug attitude bother me. It's about as worthless as me bitching about it on this thread, only there are real world implications in his case. And I won't fail to keep flinging those deuces he keeps dropping right back in his face (if for no other reason than that I'm a rotten lout, though with the perhaps "naive" and "virtuous" notion that he might one day pull his head out of his own ass).



pls explain

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Georgetown 1L Taking Questions
« on: February 11, 2007, 05:45:39 PM »
Do you know what portion of students invited to apply for the Dean's Scholarship actually get it? How many ppl do they invite to apply?

I don't know any exact figures (sorry) - maybe Lily does?  I do remember however that on this site a good amount of people were invited to apply (including me) and the vast majority didn't even get past the first round - I think there were two rounds.

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