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You covered a lot of the same bases that made me choose McGeorge, BigDaddy but there was something else about SCU that really turned me off.

SCU is in a very good and expensive part of town so the campus can't really expand. An acre of land around the school has a market price of at least 1 to 1.5 million. Since the school is pressed for space they sometimes hold undergraduate classes in Bannan Hall where the law school is. I literally have 20 friends from high school that went to SCU for their undergrad and they've all at one time or another had a class in the law school building.

Its one thing to have undergrads walking around the quad outside, quite another to have them running around making noise during exams, distracting you from your study groups, etc (I've heard first hand accounts of law exams being disrupted by undergrads who didn't realize where they were at). When I asked the staff at SCU about whether or not Bannan Hall was going to become exclusively law school next year I kind of got the run around. Even though the official position is that it will be law school only, I wouldn't really put much faith in that answer.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Withdraw
« on: April 19, 2004, 02:00:51 AM »
Right, you should be able to hold on, but there should be a point when it's just plain better to withdraw. I know too many people with all their application decisions in and financial aid packages completed. Most of these same people have even sent in the letter of intent, started filling out the specific school's loan applications, looking for apartments (in some cases signing leases), reserved the Uhual, or bought the plane ticket. For the love of God, WITHDRAW if you are at this point. *pet peeve of the day off my shoulders*

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Admitted Students Day @ St. John's
« on: April 19, 2004, 01:47:34 AM »

I also would really like to know. I passed on St. John's but I missed visiting the place when I took trips to visit law school so I just would be interested to see what kind of place I might have been at.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Don't forget your ID.
« on: April 19, 2004, 01:43:25 AM »
Yeah I took it in December and the guy seated next to me lost his ID the day before the LSAT.  He brought a bank statement, DWP bill, and his student ID but they informed him just before the test started that he couldn't take the exam.  The guy started crying.  It was pretty horrible.

Nearly the exact thing happened at the test center when I took the LSAT in Oct 2002. A guy brought his government issued ID but he was from the middle east so his ID had his picture and his name, except his name was written in Arabic. It was impossible for anyone to actually make sure that the Arabic name matched the anglicized name printed on the list so they said he couldn't take the test. I guess the guy wasn't good with spoken English because the administrators asked him to leave 5 times before they had to write it down for him to read. After he read what was going on he began to sob and plead with the administrators. However, I guess he didn't realize it but he slipped back into Arabic when talking so nobody understood him. He finally stormed out in frustration. Kinda sad to see stuff like that happen 10 feet away and it threw me out of the test taking "zone".


I can hopefully share some useful info on Santa Clara. I was accepted to Santa Clara and like BigDaddy I ended up choosing McGeorge. Santa Clara is about a 5 minute walk from my house so I'm very familiar with the school and the Santa Clara/San Jose metro area so I'll be happy to answer any questions you might have.  My email is

Law School Admissions / Re: DIFFERENT STATES
« on: April 18, 2004, 03:00:05 AM »
Some correction on the info provided above. It is the Southern Poverty Law Center that tracks the number of active hate groups in the US, not the Justice Department and California is tied with Texas as the #1 state for active hate groups. If you follow the link Southern Poverty Law Center will give you a break down of hate groups by state and what kind of people they hate.

Law School Admissions / Re: DIFFERENT STATES
« on: April 18, 2004, 02:37:50 AM »
Small tidbit of info. California has the second largest concentration of active hate groups in the country coming in second only to Texas. I think it was on a Justice department list that came out a few months ago.

Law School Admissions / Re: If you sell your crap, is that INCOME?
« on: April 18, 2004, 02:26:11 AM »
Well, the answer to that question is yes and no. If you want to be completely law abiding than its my impression that your monetary gain is considered income. However, you don't have to report it if the amount is under a certain threshold. I believe its something like $500, meaning if you've made over that amount in any manner (wages, sale of stocks, interest, etc.) than you have to report the amount raised on eBay as income. During my undergrad I supplemented my income by eBaying old baseball cards and my father suggested I report my income to the IRS to avoid tax issues. But that was because he was concerned about financial aid issues that feds could bring up if they found out about the eBaying. Hope that helps.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Withdrawing enrollment
« on: April 13, 2004, 12:42:50 AM »
Maybe you should send them an email that says, "We are currently processing your application."
;D ;D ;D ;D

That was funny. Maybe you should send them a "rejection" letter. "Even though I will not be attending, many schools that will not have the honor of my attendance have gone on to educate outstanding lawyers, etc." Can you imagine.

Considering that you've been out of school for 7 years law schools may be a bit forgiving on your grades. For instance, My uncle was admitted to a top 10 law school with a 2.9 GPA from Princeton, a 179 LSAT, and 10 years of work experiecne. However, he was admitted during the doldrum of admissions that was the mid 90s. Since then the competition has gotten fierce and its unlikely to get better as long as the economy is in the crapper.

If you are able to demostrate that your 7 years of work will help you with law I think you definatly have a shot. Even if you don't get into a top 15, there are some really fantastic schools in New York.

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