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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Georgetown Class of 2009« on: May 24, 2006, 04:57:23 AM »
How long did it take for you guys to get the yellow sheet processed? Did the response come by snail mail or email?
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General Off-Topic Board / Re: whats the worst pickup line you've ever heard« on: May 19, 2006, 03:46:19 AM »
Hi, you'll do.
I may not be the best-looking guy in here, but I'm the only one talking to you. If I told you that you had a hot body, would you hold it against me? 3
Where should I go next fall? / Re: stupid for heading to a low ranked school?« on: May 18, 2006, 07:57:58 PM »I especially love the part about how 22-yr-old college kids with high LSAT scores aren't qualified to discuss this, because apparently firsthand experience is more trustworthy than objective statistical data. You really think starting salaries can't give a good indication of lifetime earning potential? 4
Where should I go next fall? / Re: stupid for heading to a low ranked school?« on: May 18, 2006, 07:42:28 PM »I especially love the part about how 22-yr-old college kids with high LSAT scores aren't qualified to discuss this, because apparently firsthand experience is more trustworthy than objective statistical data. http://powerscore.com/lsat/help/salary.htm 5
Where should I go next fall? / Re: stupid for heading to a low ranked school?« on: May 18, 2006, 07:36:26 PM »
Actually, I agree with quite a bit of what you said here. But when someone mitigates the importance of "employment potential," they need to be corrected. The point of this thread is the difference between Suffolk with a full ride and Georgetown. Unless the OP's goal is to work in a mid-sized firm in Boston, Georgetown is the obvious choice. Quote But I will be employed. And my performance while employed will dictate my future successes. T1s open doors, but they do not keep them open forever. Hard work and talented lawyering skills do. There are a great many lawyers who did not attend a t1 schools--are you ready to assert that only a select few have become successful? Are you ready to assert that less than a majority have become successful? Are you ready to assert that those who went to a t3/t4 school and failed in life would have done better had they scored higher on the LSAT and gained admittance to HYS? This depends on what you mean by successful. The fact of the matter is that a T1 graduate will have the same opportunities open to a T3/T4, and then some. I am not disputing that T3/T4 grads can't be successful, just that it will be much harder for them. I think in the case of the OP, it is certainly worth the 100k or so in tuition, unless his goals are much narrower than most law students'. 6
Where should I go next fall? / Re: stupid for heading to a low ranked school?« on: May 18, 2006, 07:12:38 PM »No, you're not stupid... What most people won't tell you is that any ABA accredited school, whether it's Harvard or Florida Coastal, enables its graduates to practice anywhere in the country, provided they pass the respective bar exam. Chill, dude. I am not suggesting that a T3/T4 degree is worthless, but I will ridicule someone who says this: Quote While everyone is hung up on "employment potential", they ignore the fact that having a law degree is much like having a college diploma: you get out of it what you put in. This is simply not correct. A T14 grad has much more "employment potential" than a T3/T4 grad. If you peruse employment data, you'll find that this is obviously the case. Law is a prestige-oriented profession. And it is just exacerbates the problem when someone says, "I know a T4 grad who is doing great!" This doesn't change the fact that a higher-ranked school will open up a wealth of opportunities that would be unavailable to a T4 grad. I am not looking for a cookie or a pat on the back. I think the people that indulge others' self-delusions do much more harm. 7
Where should I go next fall? / Re: stupid for heading to a low ranked school?« on: May 18, 2006, 06:14:03 PM »No, you're not stupid... What most people won't tell you is that any ABA accredited school, whether it's Harvard or Florida Coastal, enables its graduates to practice anywhere in the country, provided they pass the respective bar exam. Yeah, I hear Florida Coastal competes pretty well with Harvard too. Quote While everyone is hung up on "employment potential", they ignore the fact that having a law degree is much like having a college diploma: you get out of it what you put in. Yes, some schools have a better alumni network, but you don't NEED connections to start out well. I know several DOZEN lawyers who all started at non-ABA's in California, transferred to a T4 ABA, graduated, and started their own practices. Several attained 7-figures within 5 years of graduating, simply because they essentially started their own businesses and made their own contacts. I know people that have won the lottery. Thus, playing the lottery is a good idea. Quote The way I look at it, is that if I wanted to work for someone else all my life, I wouldn't have pursued law school. Why spend tens of thousands of $$$ and several years of your life learning how to work for someone else in a firm, killing yourself to make partner, when it may never happen? If you want to work for yourself, don't go to law school period. I can't tell if this is flame or idiocy. 8
Law School Rankings / Re: How schools look like in the eyes of employers?« on: May 16, 2006, 01:27:08 PM »
Actually, the largest break in raw scores is between Yale and Stanford (8 pts). The next large break comes between NYU and Chicago (5 pts). There is also one between Vandy/USC and GW (5 pts). Should there be a T1, T5, and T18? Probably not, since raw scores in US News don't mean much.
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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: What kind of work do IP/Patent lawyers (associates) do in big firms?« on: May 09, 2006, 03:07:01 AM »
I think this example is a good illustration of the ethics/morals dichotomy:
You are defending a client and talking to him about background info in order to get a good picture of the events leading up to the crime in question. During the course of this discussion, he reveals to you that he murdered an individual, but that the murder was unrelated to the case at hand. You then discover that someone else has been convicted for the very same murder, and is about to be put to death. You feel morally obligated to prevent an innocent man from dying, but your ethical obligation is to honor attorney-client privelege. So you have a choice: save an innocent man's life and face the possibility of being disbarred, or adhere to the ethical principles of your profession and let an innocent man die. 10
Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: NYLS« on: May 08, 2006, 06:29:37 PM »New York Law School sounds a hell of a lot more official than Columbia. You probably have never read them. They're good. |
