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Law School Admissions / Re: Why Shouldn't Everyone Apply To The T14?
« on: September 07, 2005, 09:24:03 AM »
Why not do it?  Well, it will cost you about $900 and if you really have 'average' numbers (does that mean 3.0, 155ish?) then your odds of getting in as a white person with a fairly normal background (read: not a war hero or something) are about 1 in 1000 at very best. Probably a lot worse. So, if you are the kind of guy who has $900 to gamble on a 1 in 1000 longshot, then I guess there's no real harm per se.  I'd just feel like an idiot for blowing that much cash and wasting all that time filling out 14 applications that were basically just recycling bin fodder.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Death of a dream
« on: February 25, 2005, 12:07:31 AM »
Dreaming of Cardozo for 20 years seems roughly equal to dreaming about getting a moderate case of hemorrhoids for 20 years.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: So, where's everyone going?
« on: April 23, 2004, 10:14:42 PM »
Still on a few waitlists, but it looks like its the University of Texas for me.  Austin, here I come!

Just curious.  Almost everyone who was waiting going into this past week seems to have gotten a waitlist.  I expected the same fate.  But I still haven't gotten a damn thing.

Anyone else in the same boat?

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Vanderbilt vs. Boston U
« on: March 29, 2004, 09:50:19 AM »
I'm not up to speed on Int'l Law programs, but other than that, I think Vandy is a MUCH better school than BU, unless you want to stay in Boston.  BU has a very mediocre reputation outside of New England.  Vanderbilt is stronger in NYC, DC, Atl and Miami.  Its also stronger in Chicago and other midwestern cities. 

As for the faculty, I'm not sure why you say BU has the edge.  According to Brian Leiter, (, Vandy is slightly ahead.  And in terms of reputation, Vandy is stronger.   

IMO, if you want to live in Boston, go to BU.  If you want to live elsewhere, go to Vandy.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Cornell/Duke/Michigan?
« on: March 25, 2004, 10:52:20 AM »
I'd recommend Cornell as well.  Probably has the most name rec overseas because its an Ivy and it also has the strongest International law program from what I've heard.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Who found out over email?
« on: March 24, 2004, 10:52:01 AM »
I have a stange history of finding out things via email by accident.  For example, I found out that I had been accepted into the Dept. of Justice Honors Paralegal program when the payroll department emailed me about security clearance.  The people actually hiring me *forgot* to call me. 

Similarly, I found out from Florida State Law when they emailed some of their admitted students about an upcoming Scholars Weekend.  I had to write a sheepish email to the admissions office asking if this email meant I was in.  The letter came 10 days later.  I found out I was into Vanderbilt when they sent me an email to tell me that their accepted students site was up and ready to use.  I again had to write a sheepish note to the admissions office asking if this email meant I was in.  Got that letter 3 or 4 days later.  I found out from U. Texas when they sent out the now imfamous Menengitis email to all admitted students, even those who had yet to be notified.  A third time in 10 days, I had to write a sheepish email to the admissions office asking if this email meant I was in.  Got the letter the next day.

I also found out from Northwestern via email, but that email was actually meant to be a notification of acceptance, unlike the others. 

So, email acceptances are fairly common I guess.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Overrated/ Underrated Schools?
« on: March 24, 2004, 10:44:08 AM »
One school that is under-rated if you simply go by their overall US NEws rankings is UNC.  Carolina Law ranks around #30 on the list, but when you look at prestige scores and how their grads do in job placement, they are ahead of every single school not in the top 20. 

Their overall ranking gets dragged down because they are forced to take 75% in-state (thus lowering their median LSAT and GPA scores) but the school is top notch.  If you're someone who can't quite break into the top 20 but want to get the benefits of a top 20 education, I suggest UNC. 

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Looking for some advice
« on: March 24, 2004, 10:39:21 AM »
this thread is from did it get back up to the top? Weird...

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Think Twice Before Going to Law School
« on: March 23, 2004, 01:23:39 PM »
Some of the points brought up in this thread are exactly why I would suggest that everyone take at least some time off between graduating from undergrad and starting at law school.  There is absolutely no rush--the average age of 1L's is around 24 of 25 so its not like you'll be behind the 8-ball if you start later than age 22.  But most of all, taking a year or two off to try some work in the legal field will really help you decide if this is a life style that is right for you. 

Obviously, no two places are the same so just because you react one way to your first full-time extended work experience doesn't mean that you'll feel the same way about your jobs after law school, but getting some initial experience a good way to figure out if you really hate the legal field.  Its nice to find that out before you rack up a 6-figure debt.  Moreover, if all goes well, having experience will allow you to have more confidence when you start law school. You'll know a bit about the law.  You'll be familiar with some legal terms.  You'll know that this is something you can do. 

Plus, work experience and having demonstrated commitment to the legal field will really enhance your application.  For many law schools, this is a very big deal.

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