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I'm not a USNWR expert, but from what I hear the biggest achilles heel for Tulane rankings wise is the in state bar passage %

Tulane is the big dog in New Orleans and pretty much the whole state (LSU does very well outside NOLA but a Tulane grad wouldn't have any trouble in Baton Rouge). Louisiana also uses the civil law system, which has some significant differences from the common law states (most notably in property, trusts and estates, and family law). As such, Tulane offers two tracks the common law track and the civil law track. Almost everyone chooses the common law track because most want to practice outside Louisiana. Unfortunatly, for whatever reason, some folks on the common law track have problems finding gigs outside Louisiana. When they realize this they start looking for work in NOLA and usually get a good job offer pretty quickly. By this point they have taken no civil law classes and try to learn the civil law stuff (along with all the other multi state stuff) with a Barbri course right before the bar. This is a less than ideal way to study, and we get a bump in 1st time bar failure rates. However, a lot of people never take the civil law courses and pass the La. bar just fine. Its just we get a bit more first time flunkers than other schools of our caliber.

Long story short, people underestimate the La. Bar and we get hit because of it.

You're right except you got the terms switched. Because Louisiana still follows the vestiges of the napolionic code, Tulane teaches both common (english judge based) and civil (roman code based). A civil law background is very useful for actually practicing law internationally, as opposed to just writing about comparative law in journals. One of our profs just got Knighted in France for his contributions to the study of international law.

Also, our strong maritime program ties into our international rep  because of the need for international shipping law experts.

I dunno if Tulane is #1 or anything for Int. Law. but its a strong program to be sure.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Crime in Nola
« on: March 08, 2007, 09:02:17 AM »
The headline making crime in New Orleans is almost all gang/turf/drug related. However, it is an urban campus and people should use plain old common sense to avoid being victimized. If you don't think you have to do that already in any other city in america you're very lucky you haven't been mugged yet.

If you would prefer to live in a Nerf padded environment, choose a school that is not in a city. If you pick any school in a major metro area, be prepared to act like a grown up and take care of yourelf, because no one else is.

I'm a Tulane 2L and would be happy to answer any crime questions that aren't mindless flamebaiting. Just PM me.


Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Should Tulane be avoided?
« on: February 25, 2007, 01:52:24 PM »
Wow, uh ok. Too much flame here for me to touch right now.

I'm a 2L at Tulane and would be happy to answer questions for anyone with real questions about Tulane Law, just PM me.



Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Tulane 2L Taking Questions
« on: January 22, 2007, 11:22:50 AM »

The social scene here is very solid. Various groups host bar tabs often ( around 3 or 4 a semester) and people go out frequently. For your average weekend shindig people will usually stay uptown to go out. If you live down here, the Quarter is best in small doses but I head down there on special occassions and whenever there are guests in town.

The students at Tulane Law are really friendly and helpful. Due to the storm, I spen't my first semester of Law School at UCONN and I'd say that the Tulane students are much more social and tend to party more than your average law student.

Ad far as sports law goes, I know a ton of people who are in it but few of them are immediatly pursuing a job in athletics (that I know of). From what I hear the program is top notch but I don't know exactly how the certificate parlays into career opportunities.  Its a big hit on campus and we're nationally known for it, so I'm sure people have successI'll ask around the sports law kids and post what I find out.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Tulane 2L Taking Questions
« on: January 20, 2007, 08:30:26 AM »
Rocky1411: The area around the school is for the most part very safe and Tulane has recently upped security by adding additional TUPD and off duty NOPD patrols around the area. Also, Tulane now offers a "safe-ride" shuttle that will take people to and from places uptown for free on the weekends. That being said, New Orleans is a city and Tulane is an urban campus. People who come here should be aware that the campus is not isolated from the real world and appropriate steps should be taken. If you know urban living and follow common sense, you should be fine.

As far as rent and housing go, thre is plenty of off campus housing and Rents are settling back down to pre-katrina levels. I moved here from Los Angeles so the rent seems really cheap, but some folks tell me that it is higher than in other southern Cities. One thing you MUST do is look at your apt before signing the lease! New Orleans is a "checker board" city and some blocks are less desirable to next ones over. Also, Tulane has a great student housing database to use and anyplace where a Law student used to live is probably ok. If you end up coming here, shoot me a PM and I'll give you my land-lord's #, he's a good guy with a ton of properties uptown.

LanguageGame: The departing faculty has really not made a splash here. I haven't really heard any grumbling about their absence since last spring. The best of the two professors involved (in my opinion) are only on leave and will be returining next year (or this semester). The school has also done a very good job finding replacements. I had one of our new profs last semester and the guy is a genius and a good teacher too. We lost more faculty than usual last year, but it was a temporary increase and the school seems to have taken the appropriate steps to remedy the situation.

I know a bunch of people in the admiralty program and everyone seems to enjoy it. There are two core classes you have to take (Admiralty I & II) and as bunch of peripheral courses relating to maritime law. There also is a Maritime Journal that many student's work on. Your first year courses would be the same and the course load is not so huge that you wouldn't be able to take other, more regular, classes. You are correct that Tulane has the premire Admiralty program in the country. If you wan to do that type of legal work, Tulane is definitley the place to do it.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: Tulane 2L Taking Questions
« on: January 19, 2007, 08:30:09 AM »
LawAppJedi: Depends if you want to stay in Louisiana or not. Tulane has a far better national pull than LSU and even the bigger firms in NOLA tend to smile upon Tulane students more than other schools. If you want to stay in Louisiana or you don't want to do firm type work, LSU's instate tuition would be hard to argue against.

rocksout247: Tulane does offer a certificate in International law and from what I've heard, the program is very good. One of our professors was just "knighted" by the French for his contrubutions in International Law. I'm sure one of the admissions people would be able to flesh this out for you. As far as DC placement goes, Tulane places well in DC. We sent a large contingent of students to a DC interview program and had several firms come to the Tulane OCI's this fall. If you're interested in DC and international law, Tulane would be a fine choice.

Boss: Louisiana is a "civil law" state, basically the Civil Code tries to spell out the law and there is a lesser dependence on the court's interpretation. In practice, this is doesn't really work out too well and you wind up doing the same analysis that you would do in common law jurisdictions. However, the terminology is different and in Family Law and Property law, there are some significant differences. But, at Tulane you don't have to do any civil law if you don't want to. I (like most people) am on the common law track and don't intend on doing any Civil law. That being said, employers down here don't really care which track you take. I got a 1L summer clerkship here and did fine and got a great half summer associate possition and nobody cared that I was common law. Taking a civil law property class would be useful, but not neccessary to passing the Louisiana bar.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: Cornell Housing Q
« on: January 18, 2007, 09:38:13 PM »
Yikes. I went to Cornell for Undergrad and always thought the Law Student dorms would be a nightmare. They're in the same Building as the law school/library and along the path from the bars to the undergrad dorms (that may have changed since I left, but there are still several Frats down there, including mine)and that = LOUD DRUNK UNDERGRADS.

If you want to live in campus housing get Grad housing on North Campus or by the Plantations. Its a walk/bike ride, but well worth your sanity. Otherwise, there are some great options in and around campus (Gun Hill Appartments were nice).

CU Law has a great facility (especially the dining hall, best food on a campus with greatfood), but the dorms in the LS are not the way to go...


Choosing the Right Law School / Tulane 2L Taking Questions
« on: January 18, 2007, 06:31:49 PM »
Everything from "do you study French law?" to "Is your campus under water?"

Fire away!


Visits, Admit Days, and Open Houses / Re: Tulane - Admitted Student Day
« on: January 18, 2007, 03:26:32 PM »
Tulane 2L here if you have any questions feel free to PM or email me.


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