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Law School Applications / Re: "personal experience"
« on: February 21, 2004, 07:13:03 AM »
Full disclosure: I'm Asian and probably stand to "benefit" from affirmative action in regards to applying to law schools.

Even with all your anecdotal evidence that affirmative action is robbing more qualified white people of positions (in schools, jobs, etc.), you have to realize that there are studies that show, for example, that people named Tyrone and Latasha have a tougher time finding jobs than Toby and Linda, EVEN WHEN THEIR QUALIFICATIONS ARE STRONGER. The one I'm talking about I could probably search for and find. I think it was either a Harvard or Yale study, but I can't remember.

Now let's talk about affirmative action specifically in our case, an Asian applicant vs. a white applicant. I didn't benefit at all from special considerations for Asians in applying to undergrad (not a problem anyway since I couldn't afford to go anywhere better than UTexas). Let's talk about the fact that English is my second language. Should that be considered a disadvantage? I absolutely think not, since plenty of people grow up around less-than-perfect English. However, the ability to speak Chinese should be a huge plus, because Chinese speaking individuals need lawyers too. The same would apply to Latinos and blacks because their communities would prefer representatives of similar background. We are not yet ready to see a world that doesn't need affirmative action, but I hope to see that day during my lifetime.

Now as far as hardship goes, I think it's beneficial only to demonstrate hardship for the purpose of emphasizing strengths, such as perseverance, commitment, and stuff like that. Otherwise, the hardships may often be seen as a liability. That's the way I see it, of course. I could be wrong. It's all just a judgment call as to how much "tragedy" and "hardship" you put into your personal statement. I personally am leaning toward more interesting content, because my hardships were neither unique nor fascinating, and I'd rather write about other stuff.

Shane

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Studying for the LSAT / Response and qualified apology
« on: February 18, 2004, 05:36:22 AM »
Perhaps my attitude is a bit cocky. Perhaps I have offended you because I conveyed a somewhat condescending tone. For that I will apologize. You assume that I am nothing more than an arrogant, lazy, alcoholic undergraduate who lacks direction and only am going to law school because I want to delay my entry into the workforce and the "real world" for another 3 years. Maybe we can talk a bit more about maturity and responsibility.

I am paying my own way through school right now and working a 40-50 hour workweek while still attending school full-time. The only financial help from my parents was the $2000 car they bought me my freshman year. I will be graduating after 3 and a half years of school, despite the full-time job. You know, I wanted to be an engineer when I was nine and was all set to be one until I decided that I wanted to be a patent lawyer after taking the LSAT last year. Also, I think that since I'm paying for my education out of my own pocket, I'm not going to attend law school on a whim. I think I understand that the LSAT has very little to do with performance in law school, but thanks for the tip. I think I'll do just fine in law school for entirely different reasons, though.

Congratulations on succeeding in insulting me. Being called rude or arrogant means nothing to me, but I do take offense at people implying that I am immature or irresponsible. I consider CaliforniaLaw's post to be putting me in my place, as I am an ass and somewhat juvenile at times, but your post just leaves me bewildered and somewhat amused.

As far as LSAT advice, all I can give is relax and don't stress over it. You'll do better if you're well rested and comfortable with the exam.

Oh justme, the bet was for the cost of the test administration and whether I'd score a 165. If I had lost the bet I would have had to take my friend out to lunch. Since I barely got it, he paid for my test fees.

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Studying for the LSAT / hahaha
« on: February 06, 2004, 03:32:49 AM »
I didn't study at all and took the test for a bet. I scored a 166. It then convinced me that I want to go to law school.

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Law School Applications / Re: Which job would be better?
« on: February 06, 2004, 03:07:35 AM »
Thanks for the advice, guys. I think I'm going to take the management job because I definitely would enjoy working as a leader with about 40 people that I'd be directly responsible for. Also, the pay would be better and I do have serious financial considerations. On top of that, in case I don't get into law school, restaurant management/ownership is where I'd end up pursuing a career.

Also, what are some good ways to demonstrate interest in law besides working in the field? Other than being very vocal amongst my peers about politics, law, and current events, I really don't have anything to show. The interest is definitely there, but I may not have anything that I can put on an application. Thanks again.

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Law School Applications / Re: decent grades, decent LSAT + misdomeaners = ?
« on: February 02, 2004, 06:14:45 PM »
To answer your question, I know plenty of people who got into law school or med school or dental school with minor alcohol convictions, but I don't know about the theft or weapons convictions. What I do know is that you would probably want to spell things like "weapon" and "misdemeanor" correctly to maximize your chances of getting in.

The LSAT and GPA alone probably aren't enough to get into good law schools unless you have some other stuff going for you, and the misdemeanors definitely don't help an already bleak situation for good law schools. I don't know too much about the tier 4 schools, so I can't answer your question about that.

Shane

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Law School Applications / Which job would be better?
« on: February 02, 2004, 06:03:06 PM »
I'm expecting to graduate this fall with a 3.0 GPA and I got a 166 on my LSAT. Anyway, the reason why my GPA is that low is because I work a 40 hour week while still taking a full-time courseload (12-15 hours per semester). Now I've been offered a management position at the restaurant where I work, and have been wondering whether this would be better than any entry level desk job at a law office in terms of looking good when I apply to law school. Which looks better and why? I don't really have time for student organizations or other extra-curricular activities since my life is all school and work, so I need for my job to make up for the GPA. Thanks for your opinion.

Shane

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