I didn't get any responses to the pub night, so I think I am going to cancel. If anybody still wants to get together I guess we can do it another time!
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I have to disagree with schwing. Of course, I am an evening student, working full-time, so I may be a little biased. I currently work in a law firm and participate in hiring of new attorneys and I can honestly say that law review, moot court and internships don't hold a candle to true work experience. Many law students went to law school directly from undergrad, and thus have no clue what the real world is about. That said, everyone will be defensive of their choices, so you have to decide what is right for you. I have a demanding job and I think that forces me to be more organized and budget my time appropriately. I have many friends who went to LS during the day and said they had a hard time budgeting their time for studying and that evening division students seemed to have more structure. Just think about people who work full time and have kids. If you are only juggling a full time job, you have it easier than many evening division students.
And, trust me, the debt issue is nothing to sneeze at. I will graduate with FAR less debt than most LS graduates I know, and they are still struggling to pay their loans, buy houses, etc. When you get out of LS and get your first job, moot court, law review and internships won't mean much when you have to take a substantial chunk of money off the top of your salary. Besides, nothing about law school really matters after you get your first job. After that, we only look for what type of experience you have and how much.
I would really recommend NOT going into private practice right out of law school. However, I really do admire people who are bold and courageous enough to start their own businesses. The reason I recommend not starting your own practice is that from working in a law firm, I can see that new lawyers have absolutely no clue how to be lawyers. Law school is great and teaches you to think analytically and teaches you some practical lawyering techniques (advocacy, etc..), but it does not prepare you for what you will encounter on a daily basis in the real world. I think working in a law firm for even one year would give you the basic information you need if you really want to go out on your own. There is so much to learn in this business, it is a constant education, and I can't imagine trying to conquer the law on my own right out of law school. That said, do what makes you happy- whatever floats your boat!
Just in case you guys didn't read the other string, we are trying to plan a new student get together at the Streets of London pub on Thursday, August 4th at 7:30p.m. Anyone who wants to come is welcome. If you are interested, you can e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org and give me your name and I can get you directions if you need them. Husbands and wives are also welcome.
« on: July 14, 2005, 11:58:40 AM »
I agree w/ you! I thought it looked like fun, but do they think we are made of money!?! Wait until you start getting alumni donation letters asking you to give more money to the school....that will really make your day.
I like Streets of London too, regi. That might be a good place to meet on a weeknight (hopefully not too crowded). I think Thursday, August 4th would be good. If anybody is interested, you can e-mail me at email@example.com and give me your name, etc. and I can give you directions if you are not from around here. Hope to talk to some fellow borderline-crazy soon-to-be law students soon!
I haven't looked at the site in a while, so I hope everyone is still checking it. I would be interested in getting together this summer as well. I'll try to think of somewhere we can meet. My suggestions are the Monkey Bar or K Bar. Also, there is the Pine Cove (somewhat like slimelight, but they give free popcorn and cheap beer). If anyone is interested, please let me know.
I just read about McGeorge's new ranking as well. McGeorge is now considered a Tier 2 school. If you are still undecided, keep in mind that McGeorge is a regional school, so if you are planning on working somewhere on the west coast, your degree from McGeorge will be recognized. If you plan on working in the Sacramento area, you will have an enormous advantage by going to McGeorge. I am a paralegal in Sacramento, and I can tell you that almost all the attorneys I have met or interacted with went to McGeorge. As far as cost of living, Sacramento is still relatively cheap in comparison to San Francisco, LA and San Diego. However, the housing prices have jumped significantly in the last few years. My home value has almost doubled. Apartments are still affordable though. You can get a nice 1 bedroom in the midtown area (close to all the nightlife) for around $600-$800/month. If you decide to attend McGeorge, I can give you some ideas about where you want to live in Sacramento. Good luck in deciding!