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Incoming 1Ls / Re: Hornbooks for Sale in DC
« on: May 01, 2009, 04:13:01 PM »
Sorry, I just saw that there is a book sale board and I re-posted there.  Please delete.

Incoming 1Ls / Hornbooks for Sale in DC
« on: May 01, 2009, 04:08:17 PM »
For anyone (currently in DC) starting law school in the fall, I have the following Examples & Explanations hornbooks available. I found these incredibly useful throughout law school and the law has not changed so these are just as useful now as when I started 4 years ago.

Each of these retail for $30-$40, so this is a good deal.

Civil Procedure (Glannon) - this is basically a required text for first year.
Constitutional Law 1
Criminal Law

You need to pick them up. I am at 15th and U NW.

Email me at if you are interested.

Job Search / Re: Phone call from firm
« on: September 18, 2006, 11:51:31 AM »
If you don't have a rejection, don't give up hope.  3 weeks is kind of a long time, but some places wait until they interview everyone before replying.

Job Search / Re: Phone call from firm
« on: September 16, 2006, 08:25:58 PM »
Congratulations, you're getting an offer.  They will sometimes give the offer over the voicemail, but some won't.  I got one that told me he had good news for me, but didn't say what it was.  Obviously, it was an offer.

Current Law Students / Re: call back interviews
« on: August 13, 2006, 03:41:27 PM »
I think all firms are different.  One partner at a big firm I'm hopefully being called back to (I know him outside of work) told me that they take each callback planning to give them an offer unless that person gives them a reason not to.  Other places where I know associates have told me that it's about half or maybe less.  I don't think there's any way to know.  Just go in assuming that you're guaranteed nothing and you'll do well.

I found crunchtime to be useless and loved the E&E for contracts and got good grades for it.  Unfortunately, I think it's different for everyone.

My general schedule was to go to work from 8:30 until 5:30 and then go to class (my school is close by.)  Class lasts from 6 until about 8 or 9 Monday through Thursday.  typically on Friday I just took the night off, went straight home from work or went out or something.  Saturday was my major work day, usually 10-12 hours of reading and writing for LRW.  Sunday I would do about 4-5 more hours of work and call it a day.  This worked extremely well for me until finals when I would take a week to a week and a half off to prepare.  Honestly, I was probably working less hours during exams than during the semester if you count in all my job hours with school.  I took 10 hours both semesters.

I think whether or not you can handle has a lot to do with whether or not you like the classes.  I found the large majority of it interesting, so it wasn't as much of a burden.  there were weeks when I couldn't stand it, but not too many.

I gotta say I'm really surprised to read these posts.  After two years in law school, my take on it is if you want a BigLaw job, then as a 1L you'll be going hard from about 8AM-9PM all year, and studying most of the day on Saturdays and Sundays too.  If you do that you'll finish pretty high in the class. 

Everybody is different and different people take a different amount of time to study. I studied alot, but 81 hours a week of studying? What exactly do you study for that many hours a week.

Like I said, from watching full timers at my school, a lot of that time is spent int he the study lounge taking breaks and chatting with friends.  It's dense material, so it's not easy to do for 8 hours a day, but I know that if I had added one class and quit working (which would have made me full time), my schedule would have been much lighter.

Law school is not a full time job, people sit in the study lounges and believe those are work hours, but they're really socializing hours.  I don't doubt that some people work it 40 or more hours per week all semester, but it's a small minority.

I say this because I worked full time and took 11 hours of class.  There's no way that adding one more class (which is what the full timers do) would have equalled a full work week.

You should look forward to law school, it's going to be a fun 3 years with some stress thrown in during exams.  The real pain starts when you get to a firm.

Current Law Students / Re: PT student employment question
« on: June 13, 2006, 10:44:04 AM »
Definitely get a job, I recommend one that pays.  I worked full time and did PT law school and ended up at the top of my class.  I believe there is a breaking point in studying for law school where more studying does not equal better grades.  I spent the whole weekend reading and briefing cases (yes, I'll admit I did it all year) until the end when I would split my time between reading and outlining.)  I did very little work during the week other than going to class and maybe reading 20 pages or so I didn't get to over the weekend.

LRW is tough, but it can be done, generally, it is finished by the time exams come around, so it doesn't interfere with that schedule. 

My only caveat is this, make sure in whatever job you get, you pre-arrange time off for finals, that is the one time you don't want to be working every day of the week.  most jobs will be flexible if you are up front with them about it.

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