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I'm debating whether to unload my Gilberts/Emanual's and E&E's. Will I wish I had them to refer to when I review these first year topics for the bar? Has anyone here used them to clarify some forgotten BLL when doing bar prep? (I'll be taking the CA bar in a few years).

Re the E&E's: are they just too elementary or compartmentalized to ever go back to once you've made it through the course?


Current Law Students / Re: Working During 2L Year
« on: June 17, 2007, 12:16:52 AM »
I worked with someone who was a 3L at a T3/4 in Houston - he worked ~20-25 hrs a week with us.

Of course, you could barely call what he did "work" - he was either studying or, more often, playing computer games. And this was on a major political campaign. No wonder we lost.

Thanks for the feedback. At the risk of beating a subject to death (I know it's been discussed a lot on LSD): how to compare Emanuels and Gilberts outlines? I see good things written about both - based on all I'm seeing they both look good.

Are the outlines something that could be skimmed to some degree before classes? Or is that also "wasting" the material?.


Current Law Students / Study aids for Dobbs' "Torts & Compensation"?
« on: June 07, 2007, 01:06:07 PM »
I'm a 0L and have Dobbs' "Torts & Compensation" assigned for fall. It has horrible reviews on Amazon (well, it is a casebook, right?) and I'm wondering what study aids might be useful for that book, esp. keyed to the book.

I saw Dobbs' "Law of Torts" treatise recommended, but I've also seen posts saying that treatises have almost too much information to be used as a clear and concise supplement.

Also, I'll be an evening student w/full time job -> no time after mid-Aug. I'd like to take advantage of my summer (and current 3 hr commute on the train to work) to read overviews of Torts, Contracts and Property so I have a view of the forest going in. Any recommendations?

(On recommendations, I plan to buy E & Es when I'm actually working through the material. I don't want to waste them on my ignorant self this summer).

Thank you VERY MUCH for any help you can give!

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Lenovo vs. thoseotherguys
« on: June 23, 2007, 10:35:45 AM »
Yay! I got my X60s - it's so light and small!! I love it though - just have to get used to the backspace key which is half the size of a normal one - I keep hitting the = button. But it's soooooooo nice to have a laptop that's small and light enough to fit in my purse.

Hope you all enjoy yours!

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Lenovo vs. thoseotherguys
« on: June 19, 2007, 09:04:37 AM »
Well I posted that my X60s was shipped yesterday (I was notified via email BTW). Went to track it this morning and it's aleaft gone from China to Ontario CA and back to China! So I now have a shipping delay outside of UPS' control but not updated on my order status page. Great... I wonder how many times it will cross the ocean before I get it. I mean I could have driven to Ontario and picked it up yesterday! Grr.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Lenovo vs. thoseotherguys
« on: June 18, 2007, 07:48:15 AM »
Well, maybe there's hope yet for Lenovo. My X60s (ordered 5/30, supposed to ship 6/13, delayed until 6/27) just shipped. Maybe now they'll charge my card and get the ball rolling on my $113 fatwallet rebate.

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: LOYOLA
« on: June 17, 2007, 10:31:37 PM »
I know, Loyola has been pretty stingy on getting us STUFF - and believe me, I've bugged. I've asked when we're getting our e-mail addresses so we can log into "current student" stuff (A: not until orientation); when we'll know about our schedule ("forthcoming" - if you check the Loyola registrar website under Current students, that's what it says), when will the carpool-finder site be up (A: no response to my e-mail yet...)It's frustrating that other schools have lots of info coming their way while we're all twiddling our thumbs, but Loyola also moved at a snail's pace during the admissions process (from my experience)...

Pink: I came to the LA area for college, then moved away for 5 years, then just moved back last summer. SOOOOO glad to be back in southern California. Are you in CA right now?

Discoverer: Best of luck for your waitlist school - but if you end up at Loyola we'll see each other at the pre-classes, LLS-LSDers get together - or whatever we're having, right?  :D

Acceptances, Denials, and Waitlists / Re: LOYOLA
« on: June 16, 2007, 11:39:25 PM »
Yes - it was interesting - mostly just to get a look at future classmates and have the process become more "real". It was a 2 hr program: 15 minute speech by the academic support/legal methods prof (Kamati), 15 min speech by a girl who just finished 1L (apparently very well, w/ a judicial clerkship etc), then Q& A, then hors d'oeuvres and either a campus tour or one-on-one meetings w/financial aid officers. I opted for the latter.

Here's what I took away:

For those of us doing the evening program, there's a separate evening orientation in August - yay! That means nor vacation days must be burned.

Prof. Kamati will, I gather, be very involved in the orientation. She'll be sending an "assignment" and will "teach us how to brief a case, study methods etc"...

We should fill out Loyola's financial aid form ASAP if we haven't already done so. If we're thinking of taking out extra $ (i.e. in the form of a GradPLUS loan) we should indicate that. We can always change the amount later, i.e. after they've sent the "official" award letter. Also, if we take out more than we want, we can always cancel the 2nd semester disbursement.

For us evening students, the summer session is a "header" session - meaning it starts LLS' academic schools year. So that means for next summer, when we take classes, we'll be applying for aid in March '08.

For eve students, our courses will be Contracts, Torts, LRW and Prop - year long courses for the first year. LRW is once a week, the others are generally twice a week (you probably knew that already since it's on the website).

In the summer, our course load will be lighter - generally 4 credits are taken in the summer (either one 4-credit course of 2 2-credit courses).

We can graduate in less than 4 years by taking an extra summer course (i.e. 3 summers total = graduate in Dec. 2010) or taking extra classes during the day or whatever.

I think those are the most useful things I took away. I wanted to just kiss the assistant director (Janelle someone) for admitting me - I went up to her and started gushing, and then it was clear that she had signed hundred of admit letters so it wasn't like she remembered me as THE MAJOR borderline case or something so...I'll send them a nice thanks-for-admitting-me letter when I graduate.

It was a GORGEOUS evening in Los Angeles though - beautiful balmy, clear night - not a cloud in the sky. Afterwards I just hung out on the parking garage taking pictures with my cell phone - even though I fricking commute to downtown LA EVERY DAY for work - sometimes I'm just bowled over by how awesome this city is - even the ugly parts are just so uniquely LA and different from, say, the ghetto of Springfield Mass... Also, I felt very safe in on the roof of the parking garage after dark, even though you'd never catch me parking on the streets outside the campus (and yes, I'm a paranoid female from small town Massachusetts).

Are you all on the facebook group?

Incoming 1Ls / Re: Lenovo vs. thoseotherguys
« on: June 14, 2007, 12:42:45 PM »
According to the CSR I talked to this morning, the problems are with the T series, not the X series. So why the additional 2 wk delay for my X60s? I ask. Apparently there was no reason for the delay (from 6/13 to 6/27) given in the system. She said she would try to find out something from the supply supervisor or something and then send me an email.  Yeah right - not holding my breath.

This seems to be the beginning of an unhappy relationship with Lenovo.

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