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loved it.  the law quad is just as gorgeous as it is in the cd-rom, the students are amazing and the professors are brilliant.  i strongly encourage everyone to visit if possible.  please let me know if you guys have any questions! :)

the law quad may be nice, but take into the account the weather.  Also, if you're into the whining liberal thing you're in the right place.  If you're interested in intellectual curiousity, I wouldn't be too excited.  A very stifling educational environment.  If you don't agree with your professors, expect a low grade.  I went undergrad at michigan and know several of the professors in the law school...just a heads up

There is a big difference from Michigan undergrad and Michigan law.  Just like the difference between NYU undergrad and NYU law.  The difference in like night and day, the only thing that is similar is the location.  I doubt that many law profs would teach in the undergrad dept, none of the law profs taught any normal undergrad classes at my school anyway.  As for the "not agreeing with your professor thing", thats true of all undergrads- but generally no not law schools.

In terms of the hotel thing at the preview weekend, Michigan hooked you up, I think it was a 75 dollar charge for two nights.  It was pretty nice.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Future IP Lawyers!
« on: March 20, 2005, 10:22:02 AM »
Well, seems that everyone agrees on Yale over FP. Has anyone considered about Boalt vs. YHS for IP? As an engineer, I guess I had always been fascinated by UC-Berkerly engineer program. Is it really serve better than YHS Patent/IP program wise?

Also, is practicing Patent Law a good career choice?

Hiring from a school most greatly depends on what school you go to. HYS while their "programs in IP" may not be as good as berkeley, their hiring (getting those 125k starting salary) is probably way higher.  I think specialty programs show the strength of the program, how many courses, how much you can learn, etc,etc.  THis has very little to do with how likely you are to get a job after graduation.  A tier 3 is a tier 3, you'd be hard pressed to get a six figure starting salary from their no matter what you practice......

BTW, most IP lawyers (I know quite a few) will tell you to go to the highest ranked school you get into. 

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Future IP Lawyers!
« on: March 12, 2005, 05:12:30 PM »
Im going to Michigan.  I'm probably have to make a strong freaking case to sit for the patent bar.  I'm a comp sci major whose school isn't accredited by ABET, so I might be in some trouble...... hopefully everything will work out (best case scenario, I will have to take 2 physics classes to accompany my CS classes).  I don't even want to think about what the worst case scenario is.... ugh.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Testmasters/Powerscore Instructors in NJ
« on: February 17, 2005, 04:51:00 PM »
Being the giant moron that I am, I took both the powerscore and testmasters classes since I started at a low 150.  Honestly, if I were to choose one, I think I would go with powerscore just because of the smaller class size.  I think the instructors are pretty similar, but Testmasters sometimes CRAMS people into college lecture halls, whereas powerscore limits it to 30 or so I think. 

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Group study plan on LSD
« on: January 08, 2005, 07:22:56 PM »
Hmmm.... that makes a lot of sense actually.  So far that question #7 has boggled me (a lowly 164 scorer) and my roomate a crazy 177 scorer (so for those of you who got that right, you may very well be on your way).  Our interpretation of C was this:

C) Workers responding to opinion surveys tend to emphasize those experiences that have happened most recently.

Say, boredom occured most recently.  Obviously then it would be overly emphasized on the survey results.  Now say stress is more important to most people than boredom (for most people), but they put down boredom because it happened most recently to them.  Then despite the the fact that stress is more important than boredom, they said that boredom is more important than stress on the survey!
Doesn't that attack the validity of the survey?

I dunno, though I definitely see your logic now.  If someone could destroy my method of reasoning that would be appreciated too.

Also "As you prepare, it's important not to just give up and say, "I just don't get it.""  Thanks for the concern, but im part of the "been there, done that, moved on" group.  Though maybe if I had heeded the advice given to me above, I might be at Harvard instead of lowly Michigan. :P

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Group study plan on LSD
« on: January 08, 2005, 05:05:31 PM »
Did you guys find the answer from the actual preptest? If so, im not going to argue with it at all.  I only brought it up, cause I really thought C was the right choice and there are tons of mistakes in the powerscore books (I thought this one may be one of them).  Problem is, they refuse to change them. I guess this will go down as one of those questions I just "don't get".  It happens..... no biggie.

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Studying for the LSAT / Re: Group study plan on LSD
« on: January 08, 2005, 12:32:39 PM »
Hi guys, i was helping a friend do some stuff for the LSAT, but I came across a problem in one of hte pwoerscore books.  The powerscore books says it is B) but I am leaning more toward C), can one of you help me out here?  

Workers may complain about many things at work but stress is not high on the list.  In fact, in a recent survey a majority placed boredom at the top of their list of complaints.  THe asuumption that job releated stress is the most serious problem for workers in the worporate world is thus simply not warranted.

B) Workers who complain of boredom exhibit more stress-related symptoms than do those who claim their work is interesting.
C) Woekrkers responding to opinion surveys tend to empahsixe more those experiences that have happened most recently

This question is question 4 in lesson 4 from powerscore (BTW, if anyone from powerscore is reading this, I already took the course, thanks a BUNCH for the ZERO point increase). 164 to a 164.... at least I'm going to Michigan...........

Anyway, B) seems to not do anything because they are "symptoms of stress" and not necessarily "real" stress.  Furthermore the comparison is between people who are working (some workers have more stress than others).  Well duh, thats going to happen, it says nothing about the overall importance of stress to the workers.  WHereas C) points out a reason as to why stress might not be well represented in the survey.  And thus it might be super-important to take care of it.  Any opinions on this?

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Denials / Re: GULC DING
« on: December 07, 2004, 10:41:31 AM »
Man, you guys all have amazing numbers.  Someone should tell GULC to stop being numbers whores........

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hehe, actually the pictures make it look better than it really is, but pictures always do that.  It is however, still ridiculously large and "awe-inspiring".  Not so much of a tomb of thought, since a lot of the buildings though are very modernized..... though the reading room is gorgeous.... The underground library is amazing for the fact that it is completely underground...... Overall, even though the pictures do make it out to be larger and grander than it is in person, its still ABSOLUTELY amazing, and really green...... (im from new york, so the only grass I know is the grass being sold by the druggies in Washington Square Park). 

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Pre-Law in high school / Re: Looking for the best Pre-Law colleges
« on: December 05, 2004, 04:31:57 PM »
I agree.... pre-laws ironically have the absolute worst admissions stats out of everyone else.  I think physics majors fare the best.  In all seriousness, if you are gunning for a top law school, your best chance is to do some sort of science major coupled with a humanities major.  I think this show that you have the critical thinking skills plus the ability to express yourself, or if you had to choose, do the science major and get good grades.  Pre-law just doesn't make you stand out enough....... and BELIEVE me standing out is INCREDIBLY important in the law school process.

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