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Hi guys, I seem to remember someone posting a while back a website that didn't have actual questions, but could search previous LSAT tests by question type (assumption, justify, parallel, main point, etc). Do any of you guys have the site address?

Much thanks!

Another potentially useful tip: if you were debating the person offering the argument, which would be your best retort?


A: "Compared to us, people who lived a century ago had very few diversions to amuse them. Therefore, they likely read much more than we do today."
B: "Ok, but one of the popular diversions of a century ago was horse racing."

...not very convincing.  But B:

A: "Compared to us, people who lived a century ago had very few diversions to amuse them. Therefore, they likely read much more than we do today."
B: "On average, people who lived a century ago had considerably less leisure time than we do today."

A much better retort, and hence the correct answer.

Also, the other choices require additional assumptions to be applicable.

Haven't been on in a while, but from the looks of things I guess it's not too bad that I canceled.  Whew.

Congrats to you guys though!  Some of you had really amazing scores, wow.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Retaking Study Plan.
« on: October 09, 2007, 12:59:46 AM »
I canceled as well (see my other thread on it), but I'm not taking it til June.

What I've realized after all this is that this test really is one of the hardest I've ever taken, in terms of scoring consistently high on.  But it's also very easy to underestimate.  The test is very learnable, but you have to put a helluva lot of time and energy into it; not something you can just blaze through and "hope for the best".

So yeah, taking it in June.  My plan:

- Take a month-long break this October
- November, start picking apart each test one by one, question by question.  I'm going to type up each LR problem on Word and categorize it (myself) based on difficulty, as well as question type, etc.  (That way I can focus on each question more intensely, and also when the test nears I'll have a solid database of pretty much every test released, lol.  And even if I don't do the whole test each day, and not even every day, I think should have enough time).
- Work on games constantly, maybe take a few sheets with me everytime I get bored on the subway for practice.  I've photocopied every LG I have for practice but I nowhere near got through all of them.  At most I was only able to do every grouping game from the first 10 Actual to the 10 More.  (There are a *lot* of games out there).
- Read a lot for RC.  I may type these up as well, just cause I'm crazy like that.
- Around February/March next year, start taking a preptest every weekend.  Then spend the rest of the week breaking down the preptest question by question.  (For Sept, I made the mistake of just burning through tests and only going through mistakes, instead of going through each question again one by one).  Thankfully I still have about 12 or so untaken tests at my disposal (saved them for "worst case scenario", which apparently has happened lol).

I guess that's the rough plan...for all of you guys that have hit the 170's but not consistently (like me), maybe you should seriously consider taking an extra year.  I mean if you're willing to devote the time it can make a full difference between a 177 and a 167, which is the difference between HYS and not-HYS.  If you think you can do it -- and you've seen it's possible, based on your preptests -- why not?  (For me it'd just mean starting law when I'm 24 instead of 23, and I'm not wiling to give up the best opportunities just cause I'm too impatient to wait another twelve months, lol).

Also, consider realistically how much improvement you'll see in 3 months.  Especially if you have school/work.

Whew, sorry for the ramble.  Good luck!

Studying for the LSAT / Re: logical reasoning help
« on: October 08, 2007, 11:35:35 PM »
Take the part after "unless" as necessary, the negate the other part as sufficient.

Censured --> scandal

« on: October 08, 2007, 10:13:24 PM »
Yeah, now I'm getting worried I may have the opposite problem -- that they scored my test even though I meant to cancel it!!

That would be very, very bad.

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Lowest acceptable score?
« on: October 08, 2007, 10:12:17 PM »
My 168 was in June--I was averaging about 176 in the weeks before that test.

There were a couple of reasons that that specific test wasn't good for me: part of it was just nerves. I missed a couple of LR questions that were really obvious as soon as I took a second look at them, and the new reading comp hurt--that passage cost me three questions alone. Plus, the curve was crazy, to say nothing of the fact that taking the June test sucks in general.

I spent 15-20 hours a week starting around the middle of August making sure that my timing was still good... I felt confident going into the September test.

If you're thinking about putting it off until next year, I'd seriously recommend considering the February test instead of the June one. We didn't even get started until almost two, plus you have the whole morning to freak yourself out.

Hrm, I thought June was the one in the afternoon?

Google says:


    * Saturday, February 2, 8:30 AM
    * Monday, June 16, 12:30 PM
    * Saturday, October 4, 8:30 AM
    * Saturday, December 6, 8:30 AM

That's why i was thinking of taking June instead of February :)

« on: October 08, 2007, 09:59:48 PM »
Wait, how did you know your score's canceled?  Canceled mine, I haven't gotten any emails or anything... :-\

Studying for the LSAT / Re: Lowest acceptable score?
« on: October 08, 2007, 09:52:35 PM »
I cancelled already, lol, so this question is moot for me.  But I would've taken it again if I was lower than 170.

This is where I was last time. I made 170 my cut-off and got a 168. This time around... I'll say 170 again, but I don't know if I'm going to bother trying a third time if it doesn't work out.

Out of curiosity, how long was it between your two tests?

I briefly considered taking it again this December, but the pragmatist in me knows there's no way I'll improve (considerably) enough by then.  So June it is for me.  (I'd happily sacrifice another year off if it means the difference between a 165 and a 175 -- which would be the difference between a Harvard or, say, a non-T14).

Studying for the LSAT / Re: ? for those who canceled
« on: October 08, 2007, 09:48:36 PM »
Didn't it drive you nuts not knowing what your score was?  I wouldn't even consider canceling because it would drive me to the brink of insanity never knowing exactly how I did.  Am I weird or is the need for score-preservation just outweighing your insane curiosity?

I was reading through all of the threads of people who canceled.  It seemed to me like there were a fair amount of people who canceled this time.  Also, does anyone know how many people normally cancel their test each time?  Does the LSAC make that information public?

I'm surprisingly not manic about having canceled (as I thought I would be, lol).  I almost always finish all the questions in time, but on the real thing I missed about 5 or 6 on LRs and bombed the whole last game (due to timing).  No way I could've scored anywhere near my range, so canceling was the only option.

Plus I think if I got something like 163-165, even after 2 months of heavy study, I'd be crushed and way less motivated to study for the next one.  At least now I know I wasn't doing my best and have the confidence (as misplaced as it may be) that my previous efforts weren't completely futile ;D.

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