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General Off-Topic Board / Profiles of Great Attorneys/Polititians/Luminaries & law school attended
« on: September 06, 2004, 02:50:53 PM »
Hey all,


    Awhile back I happened upon this incredible website that had a brief profile of California's most accomplished law school graduates (James Hahn, F. Lee Bailey, Rocky Delgadillo, etc.) but did not bookmark it. I was wondering if anyone has happened upon this website or a similiar one and could post a url. The list was a veritable who's who of the best in every category in California. I think that the list was in .pdf format, if i'm not mistaken. Anyway, if anyone has any info please post here.

Thanks,

Rod

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Law School Applications / Re: Letters Everyone
« on: February 18, 2004, 07:59:47 PM »
just got rejected from Washburn. 150 lsat, 2.6 lsac gpa English Literature.

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Law School Applications / Re: Franklin Pierce
« on: June 05, 2003, 05:22:19 AM »
Cardozo? I haven't heard much about this school. Are they ranked above FP as far as intellectual property? do they have a combined degree program that qualifies you to take the patent bar w/o a technical undergraduate? it seems that FP has this type of program. I am currently trying to find degree programs that will satisfy the scientific/technical requirements for admittance to the patent bar exam.

Thx,
Rod

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Law School Applications / Re: Patent Law
« on: June 17, 2003, 08:55:49 PM »
Kelly, what were your numbers if I may ask, and where did have you ultimately decided to go?  Thanks for the reply.


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Law School Applications / Re: Patent Law
« on: June 05, 2003, 05:25:56 AM »
II may be mistaken but it does seem that Franklin Pierce has a pretty interesting program that allows you to get a Masters in Intellectual Property along with the JD.  It would seem that this type of program would satisfy any patent bar requirements. If anyone knows any more about this I would love to hear from ya.

Thx,
Rod

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Best schools for IP?
« on: June 05, 2003, 09:48:10 AM »
No one is  suggesting that people that have NO technical background are on an equal footing with those that have a 4 year undergrad degree, just that combined work experience and an accelerated masters program may serve as a sufficiently viable alternative to going back to school, as it is nearly impossible anymore to return to college for a 2nd undergraduate degree, and have credits transfer effectively. Merely to essentialize the practice of patent law as a field for electrical engineers is, I believe, misleading. While you may be right as to whether working as a Network administrator translates immediately into a job as an IP attorney upon passage of the patent bar, someone who could have worked as a technical writer, and who had only an english degree upong graduation, and who is actively assembling information for a specific technical industry might be considered an asset to a firm dealing in patent litigation, or at least the case can be made that people that follow a different career path can achieve success as patent attorneys.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Best schools for IP?
« on: June 05, 2003, 06:12:06 AM »
All excellent points. In looking at patent bar exam admittance, I took a look at a somewhat dated (2001) document available here: http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/dcom/olia/oed/grb0104.pdf

While it is possible to take the patent bar exam after completing 32  hard science credits, it would seem that a hiring advantage would go to the candidate that would be satisfying some very specific niche requirements, however just like any other job interview, in any other field, preference is going to go to the candidate that most closely represents the individual most likely to be able to do the work. This would not exclusively recommend a candidate with no work experience, fresh from a University.  Others who may have graduated with something other than a hard science degree, but have, for one reason or another, found themselves employed in a more technical capacity (the computer support/IT helpdesk field is a good example of this) represent candidates who have found themselves employable in an unexpected, but nevertheless needed and technically sophisticated position. I may be wrong, but I would also submit that not all patent attorneys spend every day doing complex mathmatics, and reading cirquitry diagrams. While this may be a very necessary skill, I believe that many attorneys employed in this capacity would still have some trouble doing complex calculus right out of the gate, and as it might be a much better use of their time to focus on the legal aspects of a particular case, and more or less "outsource" some of the more technical aspects to a qualified professional. After all no man (or woman!) is an island.

Just my two cents.

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