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Law School Applications / Re: Yale Obsession
« on: February 04, 2009, 12:17:05 AM »

Anyways, it's been quite a while and I haven't heard anything back.  I was going to send a LOCI.  Also, I was thinking of "accidentally" being in the area and then stopping in the admissions office to say 'hi' and then inquire about my applications status.  I just feel that I should get some answers because I can't live like a nervous wreck anymore.  Maybe I should send an e-mail asking if there's been a decision and what it is?  I need proactive advice.

Don't stress - as Asha (the head of admissions here at YLS) has said time and again, the unique application review process ( means that it will often take longer to hear back from Yale; **many** decisions aren't made till February, March, or April.

In other words, no worries that you haven't heard back yet...they know you're still interested! If you happen to be in New Haven, you'd certainly be welcome to take a student-led tour (1pm on most Mondays, Thursdays, and Fridays - but call ahead to confirm!), but trust me - if they have made a decision, they'll let you know (usually by phone unless you're out of phone contact, like, in Africa or something) as soon as possible! It's not like the admissions staff just sits on decisions b/c they like to see people squirm...instead, they're waiting for faculty reviewers to carefully complete the steps of the process. [Asking for a decision won't make one come more fact, it's just a (sorry to be blunt) waste of the staff's time.]

An undergrad here at Yale reports having been admitted in the past couple days...I don't know her firsthand, but based on her accomplishments/honors, I wouldn't be too surprised.

I guess it *is* getting to be around that time...a number of professors have mentioned in class that they've been busy reviewing files recently. :)

Comeback got some more specific answers to this question on TLS:

I'm generally sceptical about TLS-gleaned info, but rabbit9198 is reliably on top of her game (and an LSD-er).

Aw, thanks! :)

I think the TLS threads linked on this thread cover most everything...I'd note that the Michigan subsidy mentioned above (I think, though I'm not 100% positive) is only for Darrow scholarship winners, fyi.

General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: HLS Class of 2012
« on: November 29, 2008, 12:57:47 AM »
Congrats to all the new admits! What fabulous news to be thankful for!

Shameless self-plug: If you want to read a bit about what it's like to be a 1L @ HLS, I'd invite you to check out the blog that a friend of mine (1L @ HLS) and I (1L @ YLS) are co-writing to get a snapshot at life in law school.

Again, congrats & best wishes!

Ask your law school's career office if they have paid for access to the University of Arizona-compiled 2008-2009 Government Honors & Internship Handbook. It contains hiring information on 40 federal agencies that hire, including alphabetical listing of organizations with detailed information about summer and entry-level hiring.

It's an annual publication, and I would assume most law schools participate.

Sorry for the dead-post bump, but as the semester wears on it's nice to have people who aren't our friends & family reading...we're trying to each post at least once a week, so hopefully there will be stuff to keep you coming back to visit: (most recent updates: the election @ law school)

I'll also be writing a bit about New Haven in the next week or so, heartbreaker! stay tuned!

Thanks to everyone for the feedback so far - I think we'll definitely be more motivated to keep posting, and posting more regularly, if we get encouraging I would encourage you to comment on our posts, ask questions, etc.

Great blog.  Way to make the rest of us feel inadequate.

Haha. Well, I certainly hope we're not truly making you feel inadequate! I think you'll see from our posts that both of us have had feelings of inadequacy at our respective schools. :)

A great friend of mine just started her 1L year at HLS, and I just started at YLS - we decided that to keep our friends updated about our lives and to document our experiences for ourselves, we'd keep a blog about our experiences. I thought it might be interesting for prospective students to compare our thoughts on our schools, and to see what life is like for us. If you have specific topics you'd like us to discuss, send me a PM.

You can follow us here:

Law School Applications / Re: Does Yale frown upon admissions consultants?
« on: September 05, 2008, 12:33:31 PM »
Originally posted at

Dear Asha,

I noticed that there are two new questions on the application that ask whether I took an LSAT preparation course or had any assistance in preparing my application.  Will it hurt my chances of being admitted if I took an LSAT prep course?  Is it still okay to have an admissions consultant give me guidance on my application?




Dear T.K.,

I have a feeling that your questions are on a lot of applicants' minds, so I'm glad you asked!  Let me address the LSAT and application assistance questions separately.

For the LSAT, it's become the norm to take some type of preparation course (this is a change from one or two decades ago, when a relatively smaller portion of the applicant pool took such courses).  Taking a course -- which helps students understand the test, gives guidance and practice on the different kinds of questions, and gives test-takers a psychological confidence boost -- can significantly help one's score.  Of course, applicants who have a lot of self-discipline and organizational skills can self-study with the same (and sometimes better) benefits.  But my guess is that most people aren't always as organized or disciplined, and generally take a course if they can -- for which they won't be penalized.  These courses, however, are pretty pricey, and not all applicants have access to one.  So, if I am looking at an application where a student self-studied, to me it's another piece of data in reviewing the application.  That's not to say that a student who doesn't take a course and gets a lower score will get a "pass," or will have a lower standard applied to him or her, but it does allow me and other file readers to consider the resources that were or were not available to the applicant in preparing for the LSAT and weigh that along with the strengths and weaknesses of the other parts of the application.

With respect to the assistance received in preparing your application, I want to make sure that all applicants are evaluated on a level playing field.  Most students take the time to prepare their application on their own, and will probably reach out to friends and family or the prelaw advisor at their college or university for guidance on essay ideas or proofreading.  That's fine, and we hope and expect that you'll use these resources (never trust the spellchecker on your computer to catch everything!).  However, some students pay a lot of money for professional consultants -- some of whom are former admissions officials -- to help package their applications, which usually involves significant help on their personal statements.  Now, a student who uses this type of help won't be automatically penalized or rejected.  But I would like to know if a student received any professional help and to what extent: after all, I'm interested in evaluating the ideas and writing of the applicant, not those of an admissions consultant.  Most importantly, I want students who choose not to spend $500 or $5,000 dollars on a professional packaging service to feel confident that their application -- even if it is not as slick and polished as some others -- will still get due, and fair, consideration.

If you are considering getting an admissions consultant, think about why you need one.  There's no blueprint for a law school application, and the most important thing about a personal statement, in my opinion, is authenticity.  The only way to achieve that is to write your personal statement yourself, in your own voice.  Honestly, there's not a lot of feedback about your personal statement that a "professional" consultant can give that someone who knows you well -- a friend, family member, or a trusted professor or college advisor -- couldn't give as well.  Moreover, your PS is not necessarily the most important part of your application.  The other aspects of your application, including your academic record, and your recommendations, tell admissions committees volumes about you, and no consultant can change or package those.  Finally, remember that whatever type of assistance you receive, you must certify that your essays are your *original* work, which means that no one should be redrafting or rewording your essays except for you.  My advice?  Save your money for law school -- you're going to need it.


Law School Applications / Re: LOR Etiquette
« on: August 31, 2008, 06:49:11 PM »
Do it, if for no other reason than verifying the address to which they should send the LOR. And it makes you look like you have your act together, as was mentioned above.

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