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Studying and Exam Taking / Re: law review write on competition
« on: April 02, 2008, 01:09:39 PM »
Volokh and this thread were very helpful to me.

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=399533&mc=79&forum_id=2#5586935

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1L job search / Re: C student @ T3 ... what do I do?
« on: February 14, 2008, 12:19:05 PM »
I'd recommend being an extern for something like a state judge who then can in turn give you a good recommendation for after graduation. This might also lead to a clerk position after graduation.

My other thought would be to try to extern for a government agency that interests you (e.g., DA, PD, etc) so as to begin making connections there and see if you like it or work for a small firm that may be willing to take you on after you pass the bar.

All of the above are pretty happy to get students to work for free/cheap regardless of grades and would be great networking opportunities. As the others mentioned, forget about BigLaw.

2.08 GPA. 

I'll be keeping my full scholarship, but I can't/won't finish at the top of the class.  Someone has to finish bottom.  If there are any non-1L-wannabe-law-review posters with some pragmatic advice that'd be great. 

My "big idea" was to take the summer courses so I would be able to work DURING 2L and 3L.  I have no idea what kind of work, what it entails, or if it would pay.


As for study abroad, I'm not going over there.  I'd have to pay for classes.

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Transferring / Re: Odds of transferring out?
« on: February 13, 2008, 02:05:48 AM »
Forget about transferring now. Just try to rock out this semester.

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3L job search / Re: 2L with question about 3L Fall Recruitment
« on: February 09, 2008, 02:05:00 AM »
You'll never know unless you do it but like I think you are alluding to, odds are slim.

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General Board / Re: Two resume questions
« on: February 04, 2008, 05:20:56 PM »
The one-line example that someone gave doesn't address why it's information that should be highlighted on your resume

It should be highlighted, IMO, because it's significantly higher then the cumulative thus indicating a dramatic upward trend.

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General Board / Re: Two resume questions
« on: February 04, 2008, 01:12:02 AM »
First, make sure you are following any rules your school might already have. That having been said, I'd personally say:

Cumulative GPA: 3.13 (Rank 50/100), Fall 2007 GPA: 3.45

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General Board / Re: Is it worth it to become an editor on law review?
« on: February 01, 2008, 03:31:52 PM »
I'd only do it if I wanted to clerk and/or teach. There are no benefits to the actual practice of law.

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General Board / Re: Grade Concerns
« on: January 26, 2008, 11:11:58 PM »
This is easy (and silly). Go to the websites of the aforementioned firms. Go to their careers page where it says what the starting salary is. Go and find first year associates (there are even some from Boyd). You will have your proof. And yes, there are many smaller shops who don't pay market (just like every other city) but the bottom line is that market (i.e., the going rate for the majority of the prominent firms) is ~$100K.

Here's some to get you started:

http://www.ballardspahr.com/careers/topic.asp?ID=28
http://www.swlaw.com/careers/students/whoweare/nalpform/
http://www.lionelsawyer.com/index.cfm?page_id=35&subid=7

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General Board / Re: Grade Concerns
« on: January 26, 2008, 10:15:57 PM »
I'm not trying to get into an argument here. You are right, I don't live, work, or go to school there... anymore. And clearly, I still know enough people there to have a good pulse on what's going on.

However, the fact of the matter is that you are just not fully informed. That's not an argument it's just a fact. I posted the stats I did to refute your statement of "I've yet to hear of someone getting a new attorney position that pays $110,000, and I've been in the legal field for over 5 years. The only firm I can think of that would pay close to $100,000 is Greenberg Traurig, but that's only because that firm is a nationwide firm." when there clearly are more than 20 firms that pay at or very close to $100K.

If each of those firms take 3 SAs on average, that's well over 60 SAs each year at or around $100K. How is it that with over 5 years in the Vegas legal field you've never met or even heard of any of them? I know for a fact that several of the people in your class are among them (although I heard less then 15 got jobs through OCI which is a different story).

I'm not here to bash you but if you're going to give advice about the Vegas legal market it's important to give accurate stats and advice.

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