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What's the general consensus on this?  Already have an offer from the firm I did summer associateships at (120 some attys, $120K first year associate salary).  I understand that a clerkship (especially federal) is prestigious and great training ... but is there really much of a point if I already have an offer at a big (for my area) firm?  Just curious as to what your opinions were.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: SLU Or WashU?
« on: June 19, 2009, 05:31:27 AM »
There are 6 or 7 1L's at my firm as SA's.

Just to clarify, too, what I was saying earlier:

If you want to stay in St. Louis, yes, SLU is not going to cause you any problems just of its being SLU.

However, I'll take that a step further and say, I still think a very high class rank at SLU can give you at least a foundation to work with for finding desirable employment in markets other than St. Louis, if you're willing to put in the legwork of making contacts, selling yourself, etc.

This may be the point that my Wash U colleagues disagree with me on.

Choosing the Right Law School / Re: SLU Or WashU?
« on: June 16, 2009, 05:44:40 PM »
Hi.  Rising 2L at SLU here.  I had the same decision in front of me, except it was full ride to SLU vs. 1/2 tuition to Wash U.  I chose SLU.  Here was my thought process: 
Not sure where I want to work, but most likely somewhere in the midwest.  Without question, Wash U has a better national recognition factor and a Wash U JD of its own accord will open doors to interviews nationally more easily than a JD from SLU will.  However, I think there's also something to be said about having an arguably easier path to Top 5% at SLU, which I ended up in.  Further, just as Wash U isn't an AUTOMATIC job, SLU isn't an AUTOMATIC door closing in your face (save for some rare exceptions, probably.)  So I decided to go with 1) SIGNIFICANTLY less debt and 2) potential for a better class rank, and then bank on myself to be able to network, make contacts, and try to create a path for myself into a non-St. Louis market if that's what I ultimately choose to do. 
Will it be harder than coming out of Wash U with a JD?  Oh, probably.  But I don't think it's impossible.  But I think it comes down to confidence in yourself and your willingness to go beyond the Career Services office and OCI to sell yourself.
I scored a large firm job this summer as a 1L in St. Louis, and there are, as has been alluded to, about equal SLU, Wash U, and Mizzou students working there currently. 
I don't think there's anything wrong with the "Go to the highest ranked school you get into" approach.  But I don't think it's the only approach.  And I don't think a Wash U JD is a guarantee of anything (ask the 60% of Wash U 3L's that didn't have jobs as of about April 1st this year - or so rumor would have it - it's the same situation at SLU) just as a SLU JD isn't a guarantee of being trapped in St. Louis.

Incoming 1Ls / Re: SLU Class of 2011
« on: May 08, 2008, 11:56:08 AM »
Radiohead will be a great show.  This will be my 4th time seeing them, with Lollapalooza being my 5th. 

Incoming 1Ls / Re: SLU Class of 2011
« on: May 07, 2008, 10:09:26 PM »
Hell yes we got hats. I'm much more of a hat guy when my hair is shorter, which it likely will be once I start my LS budget.

I hope I'm in your group Skeeball.  :)

What's the "Optional Orientation" on 8/11 (as opposed to the "Mandatory Orientation" on 8/13)?

Doesn't "LS budget" = longer hair?

Hi, I'm SLU class of '11, also. 

Incoming 1Ls / Re: SLU Class of 2011
« on: April 21, 2008, 04:56:39 AM »
Any of you fellow ragers going to be using a Mac laptop?

Hey all, thanks so much for the support!  I wish you all the best of luck in your decision making processes, as well!

Upgrade: I heard about 2 weeks ago, and no, sadly, I have no LSN profile. 

Well, I've settled on taking the full ride to Saint Louis University.  I like St. Louis, I'm interested in health law, and that damned full ride was too much for me to turn down.  WUSTL and UIUC, I love you guys, but I guess it just wasn't meant to be.  Flame away, friends!

The seem to be a billion different things one could call "health law."

Which is why it's so AWSOME.

Babyboomers are all going to need geriatric care and Medicare is going to go bankrupt. Plenty of work for health lawyers in the future.

Well, that sounds a little brainwashed.  Personally, I am thinking about in-house work with a group like a pharmaceutical manufacturer, hospital, MCO, etc ... or all things public health.

I appreciate everybody's feedback a lot!  I guess at the end of the day, I have to decide which problem I would rather deal with in 3 years: a ton of debt or a tough time finding work in certain places. 

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