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If USF was still ranked 99, I would go there in a heart beat.  Unfortunately, they have dropped to 144.  Like you said though, rankings don't matter much at the bottom, or maybe at all, but the new US News rankings take into account employment prospects, and that is where USF took a hit.  The fact they they dropped so far down mainly because of employment is very disconcerting to me, because my main goal is to become a lawyer, and to become a lawyer I need a job.

1.  As far as location, I currently live and work in SF, and wanted to go to Hastings (but didn't get in) so I could stay in SF.  I really liked the USF campus as well, and I am not a fan of the South Bay at all.  I actually hate the South Bay.  But I am biased, because I had an internship in Santa Clara a few years back and it was a horrible time in my life and caused me to hate the area.  Plus I am not a fan of the suburbs, growing up in a small rural town.  But my gf went to Santa Clara and she loved it, so I am willing to give it another shot if I like the school.  Another thing that I am not sure about regarding location, is that if I want to eventually work in the North Bay, does it matter if I attend USF or SCU?  Even though SCU is only an hour (with no traffic) south of SF, it is pretty much another world.  I would imagine that most graduates of SCU stay and work in the south bay after graduation, and I refuse to do that (although if push came to shove, aka gotta pay off them loans, I would take a job anywhere).

2.  I am looking at all the scholarships as a one year deal.  I am not naive enough to think I am going to go into law school and dominate.  I have confidence in myself of course, but to assume I am going to renew my scholarship would be doing myself a disfavor. All the scholarships are renewed at about top 1/3 of your class as well. 
I have already appealed all the scholarships, USF and McGeorge said they did not negotiate scholarships, and I have not heard back from SCU.  Even though USF rejected my appeal, I am thinking about writing/calling them again after their free fall in the rankings (100 to 144).  I am sure I am not the only one freaking about about their new rankings and horrible employment statistics, and this could (and probably will) significantly affect their incoming class.  If I were them I would start upping scholarship offers, just to try to keep quality students at their school, but who knows.  I know you said US News rankings don't matter, but sadly it does matter to 0Ls who don't have much information to pick schools with.

3.  I really liked the USF campus and the feel.  I could definitely see myself going there.  Like I said before, I am not a fan of the South Bay at all, but maybe the Santa Clara Campus will change my mind.  We shall see when I visit the campus.  I really know what you mean about the feel of a school and their students though.  I transferred universities in undergrad because I hated the one I attended first (loved it when I visited in the summer of my Jr. year of HS), and it made a world of difference.  I absolutely loved the second university I attended, and it made my quality of life a million times better and just made me an overall happy person.  So the feel of a school matters immensely to me, since I have experienced hating the school I attended.

Would you say USF and SCU have similar alumni networks in terms of strength of lawyers in the Bay Area?  The alumni network of each school is high on my list of deciding factors, but I cannot get a grip on which is better, or how strong they are, because everyone I talk to says their school has the best alumni network.  I guess I need to contact more lawyers who didn't go to USF or SCU and asked them.  I have contacted a few, and they didn't really know.

Thanks for all the help, I really really appreciate it Mr. Library Crackhead Man.  If you want to respond back I would be  forever greatfull, but if not, no hard feelings.

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Have narrowed down my search to these two schools.

Received 10k from SCU renewable if I am in the top 1/3 of my class (appealed for more money last week, hoping to get more).
18k from USF, 10k renewable if I maintain a 3.2 GPA (from my research, I have found that USF has an insane curbe, with the top 10% of the class having a tad over a 3.3 GPA, so this is going to be very difficult to renew).

Looking to practice in the north bay or SF (do not want to work in the south bay, but I am willing to go to school there).

I am interested in agribusiness, which i know both these schools don't really offer, but everyone who I have talked to in this industry didn't go to school and concentrate in ag, they just got into it after graduation.

Do both schools have a similar alumni network? I know SCU has a fairly strong alumni network (considering its ranking), but not sure about USF. All things being equal, I would like to stay in SF and go to USF because I currently work and live here, and so does my gf.

I also received $27k from McGeorge, which I realize is a lot of money, but I think I would be miserable living in the Sacramento area, even though there is a lot of agribusiness there.

Unfortunately, USF also just took a huge hit in the rankings because of their horrible employment statistics which has me leaning heavily towards SCU :/

In undergrad, I transferred schools because I was miserable at my original school, and I don't want that to happen again. I would rather pay more to be happy then go somewhere that I loathed just to save some money.

Thanks!

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