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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Texas is a Festering TTT
« on: November 03, 2007, 12:27:51 AM »
This whole thread is offensive, and frankly, ridiculous.  I'm a 1L at UT and I take extreme offense to the proposition that the school is on a slippery downward spiral.

Random speculation by prospective law students is not only unhelpful, but it's arbitrary.  Anyone with a clue about law school knows that bar passage rates don't really mean anything, since the better the school, the less concentrated the amount of top students from that school taking the bar in-state is.  All the best students from, say, Baylor stay in Texas.  Some of the best students at UT get jobs in NY, LA, DC, etc.  I believe Ave Maria Law School similarly had/has a better bar passage rate than the University of Michigan in that state.  When I was applying to law school and looking on this message board I found posts on UT to be inaccurate, misinformed, and overly negative.   Now that I'm a 1L taking a peek again out of curiosity, I can say with more authority that pre-law students -- most of whom have never even visited the school -- are in no position to use somewhat misleading statistics to support fallacious assumptions about any law school.

My classmates at UT are intelligent and we all plan on getting great jobs after graduation -- whatever that means to each person depending on his/her career goals.  And we plan on passing the bar, in whatever state we elect to take it in.

If anyone has any legitimate questions about UT, feel free to message me.

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Law School Applications / Re: Chances at Texas?
« on: November 03, 2007, 12:16:49 AM »
Texas gives big money if they think you will actually go!  I got nothing off the bat, but now I'm paying about....$12,000 a year.  Add that to reduced cost of living in Austin and you save an incredible amount of money.

Oh, and UT happens to be a great experience so far, 1L year here isn't half as torturous for me as it is for some of my friends at other peer institutions....just a thought.

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unless chicago comes through with a miracle deferred admission, i'll be in austin as well next year.

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Law School Applications / Re: "Hold" at Chicago
« on: April 26, 2007, 12:20:47 PM »
i was in the held 2/2 group and got waitlisted as well.  is anyone else applying for deferred admission? i definitely am, chicago is by far my top choice!

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: UT 2L Taking Qs
« on: April 19, 2007, 04:58:38 PM »
How long ago did you send all this in / from what schools? My concern is that I just sent the financial info in last week because I was admitted a week before that. If I can get 10k+ in scholarship, I'll send a deposit to UT.

i sent it in late march and heard the following week. 

they seem to be a bit inconsistent when it comes to who they'll match scholarships for (in terms of candidates, not other schools).

i heard from other people with similar numbers and scholarships that they had a bit less luck than i did, i think they tend to admit you based on numbers and give you scholarships based on more of a combination of numbers and "soft factors"

just my guess though.

Did you mention your softs in your letter? My letter was pretty to the point, basically saying I was attaching a few school's offers, I could send more if they needed, that I was hoping to attend UT given a good scholarship, and that's about it. I didn't make any mention of my softs, though I do think they're pretty strong.

hah, now that you mention it, no i didn't.  in fact, i didn't even write a letter (which was actually pretty stupid now that i think about it).  I spoke to someone on the phone inquiring about it, then just dropped the letters off, paper-clipped together, when i came to visit.  but i didn't speak to anyone while i was there or put in a plug for myself.

so it seems like you might have a good shot at some success.  my letter arrived at my college mailbox (where the sorting is notoriously slow) the thursday after the committee met on friday.  but since it was dated that friday, you will probably get it sooner, like mon. or tues.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: UT 2L Taking Qs
« on: April 19, 2007, 03:45:41 PM »
How long ago did you send all this in / from what schools? My concern is that I just sent the financial info in last week because I was admitted a week before that. If I can get 10k+ in scholarship, I'll send a deposit to UT.

i sent it in late march and heard the following week. 

they seem to be a bit inconsistent when it comes to who they'll match scholarships for (in terms of candidates, not other schools).

i heard from other people with similar numbers and scholarships that they had a bit less luck than i did, i think they tend to admit you based on numbers and give you scholarships based on more of a combination of numbers and "soft factors"

just my guess though.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: UT 2L Taking Qs
« on: April 19, 2007, 02:37:01 PM »
Ok, as much as we all love to feel special, and think that having some quick flyers printed up and mailed out confirms our self-worth, I’m sure we can all agree that there are more important things than the recruitment campaign that a school launches.

I wish I was getting more stuff from UT.. a pencil… a bumper sticker… hell even a facebook, but I hope you won’t hold that against ‘em. Making the most of their (relatively low) tuition by using that money for other areas of student satisfaction makes me as a probable student happy.

That being said, Monica if you’re reading this, some glossy reading materials certainly wouldn’t hurt. 


Oh, that's entirely true and in fact the concern in my post wasn't that I wanted glossy-inundation (though it wouldn't hurt), but rather wanted to know if the recruiting attempts at UT was indicative of the experiences of a student vis-a-vis the administration; meaning, is the school entirely aloof towards it's students (in financial aid, establishing residencies, helping with particular concerns, etc), or is the admissions enticements (or lack thereof) an isolated situation.

If the saved money on admissions enticements is used, for instance, in giving me a scholarship, I wouldn't complain any.

Edit: I just called financial aid, actually, and they told me they start giving their scholarships out at the LSAT score of 168 (I fall one point short of that). I hope this isn't the case for financial aid matching.


ummmm...168 definitely isn't the barrier in all cases.  i got $11,000 a year with a 167/3.4-something.  i got the money through the scholarship matching program a week after i sent them materials.

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Wait List / Chicago waitlist/option to defer for one or two years
« on: April 16, 2007, 02:40:08 PM »
Is anyone else on the waitlist taking them up on their offer to let you apply for deferred admittance into the 2008 or 2009 class?  Chicago is my first choice (and a school I never even thought I'd get this far with) so I will DEFINITELY be doing this.

What do you think the odds on deferred admission are?  Anyone else in this same boat?

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Law School Applications / Re: Texas Admissions Packet
« on: April 16, 2007, 10:25:10 AM »
I agree with everyone that their admissions recruiting material has been less than impressive, but I have to disagree with people's comments on financial aid.  I didn't get money from them at first, and then I sent in merit aid offers at other schools and called the office once.  Within a week I receieved what I consider to be a more-than-fair offer.

And for people looking for need-based aid, I think I read on Freshlaw that those letters are online now.  Check the discussion board section pertaining to financial aid.  I think the director has a post on there about how to access these letters.

How long ago did you do this? I just sent them other schools offers, because I just got in, so hopefully it's not too late. So far, their financial aid offer is terrible and is just about sending me to USC.

I sent them stuff at the end of March -- but I was accepted in December, so I was really late in doing it.

On another thread, someone pointed to "soft factors" making the difference, and perhaps they did for me, I have very good soft factors for Texas.  But even still, the schools I sent in scholarships from were arguably not truly comparable in prestige.

Hope this helps.

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: USC v. UT
« on: April 15, 2007, 10:55:57 PM »
Ok, so maybe UT just made my decision for me. Not sure yet. I just checked my financial aid status, and it told me that all I got was basically a bunch of loans and about 2k in "university tuition grant-graduate". I really hope this isn't their scholarship offer; hopefully the scholarship matching program will work something out. I was hoping to get something at least close, if not matched or surpassing, my other comparable schools' offers, but this is abysmal.

UT talks the talk, but unless you have T14 money they don't pay up.  They laughed at my WUSTL money.  However, it takes 15k a year to make USC = UT based on the info they give, so it still may end up being less expensive.  I think they know that.

ehhh i have to disagree...none of the scholarships i showed them were from so-called "t14 schools" (they were washu, iowa, william and mary, and emory among others) and i got $11,000 a year.

i have no idea why they are inconsistent on this.

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