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Book Sales and Trades / Re: Selling LEEWS CDs with primer and handouts
« on: December 17, 2009, 08:39:18 PM »
I'm selling mine as well. Just CD and Primer, no handouts. I'll part with mine for $60 + $3 for shipping.

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General Board / Re: What to do in 1-2 years before law school
« on: October 23, 2009, 06:26:49 PM »
I totally agree with the last 2 people, and if you get the chance learn how to write in IRAC style. It will help you for exams later.

But take your time. Enjoy life. Go do stuff- don't get arrested. Oh, and pay off any credit card debt now.

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General Board / Re: Grad Plus loan problems
« on: October 23, 2009, 06:20:24 PM »
Wrong. 20 hours is for all law students regardless of year. The only way around this is if you are enrolled part-time and then they can't stop you from working 20 hours a day if you wanted.
But yeah, I agree with armyjag that they don't go around and ask for your timesheets, but it could be seen as an honor code violation if you do it, and if you plan on doing legal work most employers, knowing that you are in school, won't let you work more than 20 hours anyway

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General Board / Re: Disappointing grades in this economy = drop out?
« on: July 03, 2009, 12:52:59 PM »
Your grades are fine. I would suggest that you intern with government agency that you are interested in- most only hire from a pool of former interns anyway, and keep your grades up going into the future.

I'm assuming since you mentioned clerkships that you are going for DOJ or something along those lines. Your grades do have to be higher to get those kinds of jobs, but if you have something else going for you like Moot Court or law review it will even itself out.

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General Board / Re: Moot Court vs. Journal?
« on: July 02, 2009, 08:27:57 PM »
I would take Moot Court

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Tell me more about this gay hairdresser case. It sounds nifty!

lol, I just made it up although I am sure there is such a case out there

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General Board / Re: College Cost Reduction Act of 2007
« on: June 10, 2009, 10:24:31 PM »
Best deal ever if it is still there in 10 years when I need it.

-highly doubt this

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Thomas M. Cooley / Re: Why do people give Cooley such a hard time?
« on: June 09, 2009, 09:05:23 PM »
It sounds like if its in the top dozen, then there are a ton more below it than above it.

My main thing is that is in my state and both aba approved and regionally accredited. I know that Ave Maria law school was in my state before they relocated to florida and although aba approved are only nationally and not regionally accredited. I also saw that a lot of other ones in other states are only locally apporved and not accredited by anyone.



ABA accred. is the only thing that matters

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Some advice on using canned outlines and briefs- read them in conjunction with your assignments. I basically stopped reading after 1L yr, but during 1L I would read the briefs (High courts), read the case (which is much faster to read since I already read it in high courts), and then looked @ that part in my Emmanuels. It really does shorten the process and I found (and everyone is different) that I retained the information much easier.

I also was never a briefer like most people. I book-briefed by just making notes in my book but if it is helpful I suggest making a chart, a really simple one for each class that has a brief of everything. 2 sentence synopsis, nickname the case- gay hairdresser fighting case, give the issue,Rule, and holding and be done.

Best advice anyone can give you- LEARN TO WRITE! I am a great writer but I found that I wasn't a great legal writer (IRAC) . There are books out there to help you- getting to maybe, leews, etc. and all your teachers will be different. I had teachers who demanded IRAC and others who hated it. Don't be afraid when it comes down to exams to not write in complete sentences and if you run out of time put your outline in.

Good luck

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Reviews, Visits, and Rankings / Re: Miami legal market
« on: June 06, 2009, 09:27:25 PM »
I'm in Miami now and before I got here I was dreading the idea of having to learn Spanish. It is true that wherever you go, people speak Spanish. In fact, no matter how white/asian/black you look they will still speak to you in Spanish first and switch to English (if they know it). However, in courtrooms they speak English, at firms they speak English, at school they speak English.... get the idea? You really don't need to know Spanish unless you are doing something immigration related, international, or public-interest where most of your clients will speak another language. Creole is another biggie down here, so if you know French that may be attractive to some employers but I really wouldn't worry about that part.

As for firms, White & Case, Greenburg, Ackerman, Carlton Fields, Hunton & Williams....
If you aren't at a Florida school be prepared to give a good explanation as to why you are interested in working in Miami (other than the weather). You won't be disadvantaged by starting your career in Miami unless you decide to move somewhere else later. You would be at a disadvantage wherever you go afterwards just because you don't have any roots in that area. That is why most people advise you to work where you plan on being at in the long term.


I guess this post takes back all your previous ones on this thread from years ago saying spanish is required to even get an interview in miami?

Yes, I take back all of that from before. Granted, I'm from white-ville USA so coming here was like a culture shock and I didn't really know what the heck I was talking about- like every other 0L.  2 years later I think I do.

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