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Is this a flame? Wear that if you want to stand out in a bad way. The fact that you even have to ask means you probably shouldn't.

No pocket squares for interviews. Plain white or plain light blue are the only color shirts you should wear to an interview.

TITCR. I personally am a big fan of French cuffs and shirts that aren't colored white, light blue, or grey, and I had to learn to save 'em for the weekend. It was painful but I'm glad I did it. You really do stand out otherwise.

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2L job search / Re: Super Confused - Firm, Judge, etc?
« on: August 09, 2009, 08:58:35 PM »
I agree that with your credentials as they stand now you are extremely unlikely to get a federal appellate clerkship.  Why is a clerkship important to you?  You said that you wanted to do a federal appellate clerkship before moving on to "bigger things".  Do the "bigger things" require a federal appellate clerkship?  A federal appellate clerkship is a great experience, but there are few positions for which that is the only route.  Law professor maybe.

As far as getting a job as a SA, I'm not sure your prospects are quite as bad as others might have suggested.  I work at a 200+ atty, mid-size city firm, and we would certainly not dismiss a candidate with your credentials without any consideration.  Not being on a journal will not hurt you as much in the law firm search as you might be led to believe by those at law school.  I would just make sure that you have something else to point to that you did productive in lieu of being on a journal.

To get back to your specific question.  The best chance you have at getting a federal appellate clerkship, like someone else said already, is going to be through connections.  I think you could make those connections either by working directly for a judge or by working at a larger law firm if you seek out attorneys at that firm that did clerkships and do really great work for them.  Maybe they will put in a good word for you with their judge.  But as I already said, I think your prospects for fed app clerkship are slim.
   

That was exactly my experience applying to summer associate positions without a journal. I think out of the various screeners and callbacks I did, the journal issue only came up negatively once to my knowledge. Being able to address it confidently and explain about what I'd done with my time instead and how that had impacted my skills was, I felt, a very good moment in a lot of interviews. I'll let you know how the clerkship apps go, though -- I've definitely preemptively set my sights lower because of it.

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General Board / Re: Will I regret accepting a position on Law Review?
« on: July 05, 2009, 06:59:49 PM »
I respectfully disagree. Not doing law review and focusing on other activities in law school (some of which provided extensive practical writing experience) was a choice I'm very glad I made every day and one that I found hasn't limited me in any way.

That said, it was a huge gamble that might have shot me in the foot, and it's not one I'd recommend for everyone.

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2L job search / Re: Pet Friendly Housing in DC?
« on: March 02, 2009, 06:58:53 PM »
My housemates and I are subletting our apartment for the summer (5/15-8/15 or 8/31) in a 4BR house that is pet-friendly. PM me for more info.

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General Board / Re: Grades Dropped For Lack Of Participation?
« on: February 13, 2009, 07:38:11 PM »
This happened to me -- or, more aptly, the professor warned that he valued regular class participation. I got in the game when called on and once or twice apart from that, wrote the best exam, and got an A-. I think he curved the exams to A- and only upped those who participated a ton, but still.

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2L job search / Re: Cravath or Cleary
« on: September 23, 2008, 02:37:21 PM »
They don't have minimum billables b/c they know associates like yourself are going to come in and start crapping on people for the highest billable hour amount -

Think about it... that's all i'm saying. I'm not attacking your mother here.

I think OldCraig's on point. The whole idea of this thread is a little perverse and self-congratulatory. At that point, the culture's pretty similar and the work's the same beyond what you can look up in publicly available data. Anything anyone on this board could offer would be prejudicially anecdotal.

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2L job search / Re: GULC OCI
« on: September 01, 2008, 03:58:20 PM »
jascot, interviewed with Baker Botts Dallas Thursday, haven't heard anything

My friends looking at TX firms, some of whom should be getting a few callbacks, have only heard a ding or two, otherwise quiet.

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2L job search / Re: GULC OCI
« on: September 01, 2008, 10:23:02 AM »
Is that baker botts, hostetler or mckenzie?

Only one of them has an SF office, chief.

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2L job search / Re: GULC OCI
« on: September 01, 2008, 09:31:37 AM »
Are some cities faster to get back to you?  It seems like most people have heard back from NYC firms, but mot from Midwest or West Coast firms. 

Depends on the firm.  I know Latham, Paul Hastings, and Sheppard Mullin have gotten back to their LA folks.


Baker, OMM, and Kirkland SF all made calls last week.

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