Law School Discussion

Nine Years of Discussion
;

Show Posts

This section allows you to view all posts made by this member. Note that you can only see posts made in areas you currently have access to.

Messages - ithappensforareason

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 ... 12
1
3L job search / Re: best websites for finding a job
« on: July 14, 2009, 07:24:10 PM »
Cold calls/letters generally suck and donít amount to anything but a pile of rejection letters. Your starting 3L right? The best thing you can do right now is get involved in the legal community and make friends. Donít start asking for jobs yet, its takes time and trust to get to that point. Your goal should be to forms 4-5 close relationships with a few lawyers and judges in town, so that by the end of the 3L they like you enough to recommend you to people they know in the legal community. Something you will learn quickly is everyone knows everyone else in the legal community, seriously is scary like that, someone you know will know someone your trying to get a job with, or at least know someone who does.  Also there are things you can do as a student, like hang out with judges and partners at big firms, that because of the divide between low on totem pole associates you canít do that kind of mixing once you start working. So take advantage of it while you can/ finally check the American Inns of Court website and see what inns are in your town, join  one, they are all about helping new lawyers get started thatís the whole point of an Inn.


Just an update.

Ive been invited to join an American Inn nearby.

The only thing that sucks is this inn doesnt meet again until november. Nonetheless, I am definately going to go and hope something will develop.

Matthies, you are da *&^%.

2
3L job search / Re: best websites for finding a job
« on: July 13, 2009, 09:35:56 PM »
Matthies,

thanks alot for the helpful information.

I am a member of the local bar associations but unfortunately, they are not very helpful. They are more catered to working lawyers and seldomly have events for students. I will look into the helpful sites you listed as well.

Also, it has been EXTREMELY difficult to locate any law clerk positions.

Yes, the bar association is not going to have specific events tailored to students, but that does not mean you should not go. Students are welcome at all the events, lawyers love talking to students. Find a few practice areas that you like and go to their events. Volunteer at some of the stuff the bar is putting on in the community. Your best bet for finding a job is not going to be anything advertised, because 100ís of other folks are going to be applying for that same job. You want to be recommended for something no one else knows about yet from your contacts in the legal community. The way you get the inside track on these jobs before they hit the streets is to get involved in your local bar association and make contacts. Most positions are filled by word of mouth referrals, they only put out an add as a last resort, Tap into that market of insider info by getting involved outside of school. And donít forget about the transvestite massages.

You are a wise man. I will heed your advice and try to be more active in these organizations.

In your opinion, what is the best job search engine for law students? I dont like lawjobs.

Also, do you think cold calls or emails to specific and local firms asking them if they need clerks would be a good idea? Perhaps they have a need and just have not got around to advertising for it yet?

Thanks for the tips about the transvestite's as well.

3
3L job search / Re: best websites for finding a job
« on: July 13, 2009, 09:12:17 PM »
Matthies,

thanks alot for the helpful information.

I am a member of the local bar associations but unfortunately, they are not very helpful. They are more catered to working lawyers and seldomly have events for students. I will look into the helpful sites you listed as well.

Also, it has been EXTREMELY difficult to locate any law clerk positions.

4
3L job search / best websites for finding a job
« on: July 13, 2009, 06:06:26 PM »
Hello everyone,


I was wondering what the best websites are to search for law jobs? I am a 3L and I am looking for either a law clerk position or legal assistant position. I just want more work experience in the field until I graduate.

I find craigslist semi helpful but is there anything else?

I am top 25% at a T4 in Southern california with moot court but I know summer associate positions are not in my future.

Thanks guys,

5
1L job search / Re: General questions regarding securing employment
« on: July 07, 2008, 10:08:20 PM »
I. As an incoming 2L, what is the process to begin looking for permanent employment? You should be hearing about OCI soon.  You should also begin letter-writing for 2L summer associate positions at the end of July, particularly if you are in the city you'd like to work in.  There also should be a job board with postings on your school's OCI website for firms that aren't doing OCI.  You can check Westlaw's job board for 2L summer positions, and you can also register to attend regional job fairs.

II. When can a incoming 2L begin applying for permenant employment and how would one go about asking firms and offices if they are hiring? Via email or conventional letter? You can begin applying for 2L summer employment now, but I'd probably wait until the end of the month when the SA programs are winding down.  I wouldn't bother to ask if an office is hiring; it takes two minutes to personalize a cover letter so you don't lose much if they aren't.  Just send your cover letter and a resume. E-mail or conventional doesn't particularly matter some firms prefer one or the other and that would be on their website.  I applied to all of my 1L firms by e-mail.  Once the balance shifts (as in, you have offers) you may want to evaluate to see how many people they anticipate hiring permanently if they're not a NALP firm.

III. When someone says permenant employment, is that strictly referring to summer associate positions? If not, what other type of permenant employment is there? Offers of permanent employment are given at the end of your 2L summer from your 2L employers.  That's why it's important to make sure that you're involved in a legitimate summer associate program at a firm that definitely plans on offering employment to most, if not all, of their summer associates.  Summer associates will by far have the best chance of permanent employment at the firms, and some firms may not be recruiting 3Ls because of an anticipated higher acceptance rate of permanent employment offers.  It's also more likely this year that and next year that law students will be no-offered or cold-offered.  This is bad for your 3L employment prospects with firms.  If you want government permanent employment, you will most likely need to seek that in the fall or spring of your 3L year.  If you want to work with a nonprofit, you should be sure to have a good nonprofit work resume to show you're dedicated to the field.  Other types of "permanent" employment are clerkships, academia, in-house counsel, solo, etc.  Some people wind up taking "contract" positions, which are basically temporary lawyers for a firm, and the gig doesn't come with the actualy benefits or resume boost of working at the firm.


Nice post.

I agree, wait until the end of july and then begin contacting firms.

GOODLUCK

6
1L job search / Re: General questions regarding securing employment
« on: July 02, 2008, 11:41:46 PM »
just curious as to what makes the dude such a "db" and cheap?


Yea. Maybe OP, you overreacting?  ???

7
General Board / Re: NBA FINALS
« on: June 04, 2008, 11:43:37 PM »
Celtics in 6, because if there is a God he won't let Kobe win a title without Shaq.

Its the name on the front of the jersey that matters, not the name on the back...

HTH

This man speaks the truth.

8
Black Law Student Discussion Board / Re: In this thread we laugh at 50 Cent
« on: September 21, 2007, 01:41:38 AM »
I heard this from a source who is close with 50 cent. Apparently, 50 will be releasing his third album under a new title.


"Got Rich and Stopped Tryin"

9
General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Who needs Harvard?
« on: July 22, 2007, 12:59:44 AM »
All this says is that you have to know people and target a regional market.


Exactly.

BUT.



That for those who are interested in BIG LAW, not attending t14, they can still pull it off. That was the point.

10
General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Who needs Harvard?
« on: July 22, 2007, 12:39:43 AM »


For those in interested in Big law jobs, not attending T14.


http://www.abanet.org/journal/redesign/07as.html

Pages: [1] 2 3 4 5 6 ... 12