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L.L.M. Board / Re: LLM in Criminal Law
« on: October 27, 2009, 07:38:43 AM »
I'm pretty sure they won't care at all about that, either.

The AUSA cares about trial experience.  They also care about pedigree - what work you've done (hellooo BigLaw), etc.  There is often a split among AUSAs in that some care more for your pedigree while others find experience in the trenches more important (i.e. the number of hours you've actually spent in a court room, and whether that was handling felony cases as a prosecutor, etc.).

A third factor, obviously, is that who you know and your reputation can make an impact to some extent. 

 As for the board certification thing, I think it's unnecessary, but I've never specifically asked for it.  I skimmed through the "requirements" but the fact that you pay $800 for this is ridiculous.  I'd probably save my money, if I were you.  The requirements, like being lead counsel on at least 5 jury trials, etc., are things you should just be doing anyway to become an AUSA.  Paying $800 (to the friggen ABA of all people) for some redundant fluff on your resume seems pretty expensive and wasteful, IMO.

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General Board / Re: Law School Threatens to Disturb Dinner
« on: October 25, 2009, 03:58:50 PM »
If it's that much of a problem, then turn your phone off during dinner and/or add your school's phone number to your address book like so:  RWU IGNORE and then don't answer.

There.  Problem solved.

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General Board / Re: What to do in 1-2 years before law school
« on: October 23, 2009, 07:25:48 AM »
Make money and get the travel bug out of your system are the best things you can do, imho

Pretty much this.   Enjoy life.

And please, PLEASE spend some time really evaluating why you want to be a lawyer.  Do some research on the job market, etc.  and make sure you're doing this for the right reasons.

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General Board / Re: Wife of a 1L... I need some perspective
« on: October 21, 2009, 03:44:45 PM »
No, that's not normal.  I've been out of school for a year, and my now-husband was with me for the entire ride.  I did go to events and study groups without him, but I kept him very involved, brought him to any event that was appropriate for guests, made sure when I went out in a big group for dinner/a drink, etc., that he came along to socialize.  And I made sure to schedule date nights or "quality time days" where I did no work and we went out or just made dinner and watched a movie together.  In contrast, it sounds like your husband has simply abandoned you.

It takes both partners to survive law school.  While it's important for you to support him, be understanding of the work load, etc., it's just as important for him to balance.  He needs to remember that while the work, networking, building relationships with classmates, etc. are all important, he has a wife and a daughter at home as well.  While balancing is difficult, what he's doing is just unreasonable, and (if I were in your shoes) unacceptable.

I suggest you get him to come home one day before 3 am and have a long, long talk with him about what your expectations are, how you're feeling, and try to ask him what's going on.  And if he starts complaining that you're not supporting him or understanding the needs of a 1L, you need to call him on his BS.

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L.L.M. Board / Re: LLM in Criminal Law
« on: October 18, 2009, 10:34:55 PM »
I know a good number of people that are AUSAs.  I've had extensive discussions with them on the direction I should go in my career and what sort of opportunities would help me land a job in the USAO down the line.  Based on those discussions, I'm pretty confident in telling you that an online crim law LLM will not help you at all.

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General Board / Re: What classes to take to prepare for Big Law?
« on: October 07, 2009, 07:38:29 AM »
Obviously, take classes that deal with whatever area of law you want to specialize in.

And otherwise, I really don't think there are any beyond the "generic" classes you've discussed.  The only classes that I can honestly say have been very helpful during my first year of practice are evidence, civ pro, and business orgs.

One suggestion I'll make if you're heading into the transactional side - see if your school offers a drafting/writing class that centers on transactional documents.  Some do.  Talk to people who have taken it to see if its helpful/worth the time, and if so, take it.

Bottom line is really that law school really does not prepare you in any way for what you actually do in practice.  The most you'll get is a basic understanding of some topic.  Even with that basic understanding, you're going to have to double check everything, find sources, look for previous work product to use as a template, etc.  So don't sweat it, and take stuff you find interesting.

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General Board / Re: Psychiatric Disability Right in Law School
« on: September 25, 2009, 11:39:45 PM »
Why would someone with bipolar depression need extra time for tests and assignments? That's an emotional disability, not learning, like ADD or Dyslexia.

I can understand how a "breakdown" may impact the need for extra time on assignments on an as-needed basis, but I believe to request consistent additional time may be using the disability to your advantage when that disability does not require extra time.

It depends upon how the disability affects the specific individual. A person applying for accomodations needs to explain the connect between his/her disability and the need for the specific accomodation. A person cannot just say "I have depression, therefore I need time and a half" - but if a person can establish that for whatever reason the depression translates into a need for accomodated time, then the person is entitled to the accomodation.


Please explain the possible connect between an emotional disorder (as opposed to learning disorder) and the need for accommodations.  I'm having trouble even thinking of a plausible connection that would justify getting extra time on an exam.

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didn't do so well during 1L-can I drop out and retake the lsat to try to get into a better school?  will the 1L grades haunt me?

You just need to suck it up and continue, at least if you really want to be a lawyer.  Just network, network, network, and try to do clinics and externships to get as much experience as you can, and you'll find some job.  It won't be BIGLAW, but midlaw isn't so bad.

And I hate to say it, but I hope more people over on the pre-law board see this post.  This is an unfortunate example of why 0Ls should NEVER choose a law school that they wouldn't be 100% happy attending because transferring is never a sure thing.

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General Board / Re: Procedural Question
« on: September 12, 2009, 09:24:48 AM »
If you can't tell from the edited version of the case, pull up the full case and the earlier opinions on westlaw/lexis.  You'll more than likely find the answer there.

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General Board / Re: NOT going to class
« on: September 12, 2009, 09:23:22 AM »
Going to class may or may not improve your understanding of the law.  But what class will almost always do is give you a window into what the prof wants.

If you skip out on class, how will you ever know that the professor LOVES policy arguments, and expect to see that on the exam?  How will you know that the prof rejects one of the main points/theories in the casebook, and will teach his own "pet" approach?

Just suck it up and go to class.  Do whatever, surf the net, play solitare, etc.  But keep an ear out for the stuff like I mentioned above.

And who knows, if you just relax and go with the flow during class, you may learn something.  (I would guess that if you're automatically assuming that class will suck, and that you're getting stressed out as soon as it starts, your frustration level will rise almost immediately, guaranteeing you won't learn anything)

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