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General Board / Re: Law School Part time vs. Accounting
« on: June 05, 2004, 08:30:13 AM »
I hear you. . . I knew I wanted my CPA in high school!!!  And I found out by accident that I loved the law.  I actually found out as a result of taking the cpa, as one of the sections was lpr (law section).  Though the cpa has just changed this year, lpr was one of the sections when I took it.  Your decision is a very personal one and I might not be the one to say which one to choose over the other, as I will have all 3!  I was a public accounting major and mis minor in college - I did IT audit at big-4.  I will say that having the combination of these two alone is very lucrative.  Everyone these days (and I would venture to say, going forward as well) wants someone with cpa/mis, especially with all the sarbanes stuff going on.  Also, u should look up your state's requirements to obtain the cpa license.  Most of the states require the Accounting MBA (not NY till 2009), which u will have.  But there is also the experience component that is required.  In NY (and I think most other states), if you have your accounting mba, you need one year of public accounting experience in external audit.  That might mean a big-4 type job for at least that time. Hopefully i'll have the jd in a few years.  I feel fortunate in that I don't have to make such a choice.  But giving up a cushy job to go to ls is a difficult decision that I had to make.

The accounting degree (with cpa - of course) is very versatile.  u can do almost anything u can imagine or would like to do in the accounting/financial world - and that is a lot.  But i would like to say that no matter where u start, the beginning of any career, including accounting, is not easy.  u still need to build up good experience and make good contacts.  Unfortunately, the kinds of jobs that usually give you that are pretty demanding.  But once u have that under your belt, u can choose to do almost anything, including choosing jobs that have better hours/pay over others.

Good luck with your difficult decision.

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General Board / Re: Law School Part time vs. Accounting
« on: June 04, 2004, 09:51:24 PM »
Ohio - maybe what u should also be worrying about is the lifestyle of a recent accounting graduate.  what type of accounting do u plan on practicing after you have your masters?  are you thinking of going into big-4? 

i'm a cpa and recently removed from the big-4 lifestyle, and i can assure you that if you are looking to start in accounting, the start of such an accounting career is NOT 40-hour weeks.  if you are even considering big-4, just know that big-4 is comparable in every way to big law, sans the salary.  that means that number of hours worked, with busy season year-round these days b/c everyone is being worked to the bone.  and a 60-hour chargeable work week is really an 80-hour working week, with budgets being so tight.  that means weekends,some overnights, and travel.  it's not an easy lifestyle for the first few years.  granted, u would make more with an accounting mba than an accounting bs, but it's still not 6 figures.  i could go on and on, but it's difficult to give more info without knowing what you are considering with the accounting mba. 

and if you are not considering getting a cpa, u prob should.  a cpa, or some other certification (ie cfa, cfp) will be chosen over an accounting mba any day of the week.

i will be going to ls b/c i've been thinking about it for several years.  trust me - it's not for the money or the hours worked.  i've got it made right now in both those areas (after i put in my required slave labor at big-4), but it's not what i should be doing.  i'll keep accounting on the side, as i'm sure it may be useful beyond law school. plus - i love the numbers.

wb if u need more info.

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Law School Applications / Re: College (represent)!!
« on: June 03, 2004, 02:19:21 PM »
Fordham University, Home of Rams (not exactly a sports school)

Major:  Public Acctg / MIS

Class of 2000

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originally from nyc suburbs.  schools nearby:

-ALL nyc schools - commute time depends on which school.  i'm in queens right now. see approx times below
- SJU (and other Queens schools) - 5-10 mins by car. 
- Midtown city schools - 25 mins by mass transit
- Downtown city schools - 45 mins by mass transit
- Columbia - 30 by car, 45 mins by mass transit
- BLS - 25 mins by car; 45-1hr by mass transit
- Rutgers-Newark, Seton Hall - both 45-1hr away by car
- Pace - 1 hr away by car

'course all these times can vary greatly depending on traffic.  but i'm sure that goes without saying on most commute times throughout the country.


Same as me . . . youre from Brooklyn Heights?

Originally from Bergen County, Hackensack.

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originally from nyc suburbs.  schools nearby:

-ALL nyc schools - commute time depends on which school.  i'm in queens right now. see approx times below
- SJU (and other Queens schools) - 5-10 mins by car. 
- Midtown city schools - 25 mins by mass transit
- Downtown city schools - 45 mins by mass transit
- Columbia - 30 by car, 45 mins by mass transit
- BLS - 25 mins by car; 45-1hr by mass transit
- Rutgers-Newark, Seton Hall - both 45-1hr away by car
- Pace - 1 hr away by car

'course all these times can vary greatly depending on traffic.  but i'm sure that goes without saying on most commute times throughout the country.

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hey victor - i'm a fordham univ undergrad alum and have been to the law school a few times.  i also took my cpa classes there a few years ago.  although i have not been to the law school in about 3 years, i would say that the school is in decent condition.  i have visited a few other schools (uva, w&m, gtown, pace, etc) and feel like some of those schools have a better feeling that u are in school. 

i would equate my feeling with fordham law facilities similar to the gtown facilities.  i think it's b/c these schools are in the middle of a city rather than as part of a campus.  there is a nice atrium in the building (i think it connects 2 buildings) that had some tables, seats, trees.  i think they may have improved the library facilities since i was there.  i don't have any pics, but hopefully this is helpful.

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General board for soon-to-be 1Ls / Re: Full scholarships
« on: May 29, 2004, 08:40:29 AM »
when did everyone apply?  was it early in the appl process (ie nov/dec?) or did u apply later on?

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if u are really not happy with your choices, then re-apply.  i decided yesterday i would be reapplying.  and don't let it scare u that the pool will be tougher next year.  although that may be the case, just realize that this also means that you will have another year to make YOURSELF more competitive.  that may mean one or several things.  maybe it just means lsat, maybe volunteer, maybe work experience.  only u can answer that (and maybe call up the schools u really wanna attend and ask them what they think will make u more competitive).  don't settle!!!  ls is too expensive and too much is invested in it (monetary and otherwise) for u to settle for less than what u think u deserve and less than what u think u are capable of.

good luck!

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Thanks all!  This was a very difficult decision for me, as you can imagine.  It's nice to have all the support. 

Ladyday - Thanks!

It's nice that this is a possibility, I think. I mean, when applying to undergrad there was this sense of "I MUST go SOMEWHERE"--there was no way my parents were letting me not go to college even if I was just going to community college or a crappy state school. But with law school, there's a lot more flexibility.

Best of luck next year!

- Marista, I agree that it's nice to have the flexibility to choose when/where it's right, as opposed to undergrad. 

- Sodashi, NJLawguy, & ecbirm - I will be re-taking LSAT in Oct and DEFINITELY applying early!  Wish I had done that this year, but everything was too rushed.  Hindsight is 20/20 in this case.  I just don't wanna go through my life or law school wondering 'what if (fill in the corresponding ls question)?'  lol.  Maybe I'll see some of you here next cycle discussing our status.

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So the verdict is in. . . BLS rejected me.  Ah well.  Anyway, I'm deferring Seton Hall and doing this whole mess again next year.  I'll be sending out the deferral request today.  Good Luck to all in Class of 2007 and I'll see all for Class 2008!!

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