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Would you say that the EJD helped her any as a supplement to her MBA?

I have a friend attending Taft--he will sit for the FYLSE in June 12 so that will be interesting if he passes it or not. I also have a colleague who went to Concord, she failed the FYLSE 3 times (even after the assistance of a tutor) she came into the school with an MBA from Columbia--law wasn't her strong point so she opted for the EJD. 

I chose California School of Law for the cost and the live class experience. The big downside isn't necessarily the professors (a couple sucked) but the other students. With the Socratic method one is expected to not only read the cases but to brief as well--in large brick and mortar schools that are filled with 50+ students there is a chance of not being called on, yet with small classrooms with more like 20, hands down without fail half of them were not prepared. Complaints such as "Sorry professor there were too many pages to read" or "sorry professor I had too much to drink tonight" "sorry professor maybe next time". I am not kidding, it was frustrating because those students wasted class time with questions. The professors were always suggesting they spend the time reading, and don't get it the first time read again, then again--read E&E if you don't get it but make an effort!


I am actually now in a position since I passed the FYLSE to consider a transfer--I began looking at American Heritage University. It appears many of the professors jumped ship from Abraham Lincoln SOL--at least their website isn't ghetto plus they offer evidence for 16 weeks not this 6 week BS.  The other thing of interest is the cost, $4,000 less than CSOL. Its up in the air now, but I am keeping my eye on the school and I may call one of the professors since he taught my FYLSE review.

Bottom line, no matter where you go you have to put in so much time with studying and teaching yourself--you can't expect law to be spoon fed to you, so it really depends on how disciplined you are and how much effort you put forth in understanding it.

Hi Lincoln, just seeing this today. Nope I would not say that it "helped her" as it just was a way to salvage her law school investment. I'm going to be honest here and likely to be flamed but WTH. I've been in the legal profession spanning on nearly 2 decades and have been exposed to those who 'get' the law and those who will never 'get it'. This woman constantly called me asking me basic procedures, things that are easily obtained in a Rutter Group practice guide. Why research it when its easy to pick up the phone and call the knowledgeable paralegal who has performed the work over and over?  I think her EJD is a way to tell people she attended law school. It is unlikely she will explain that she only received an EJD because the JD program requires passing the FYLSE, so after 3 failed attempts she grabbed what she could. Maybe in Iowa the JDE may look good--but highly unlikely to score bonus points in the Southern CA legal profession. Just my 02 cents.

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The Duncan School of Law was denied accreditation
ccreditation" class="bbc_link" target="_blank">http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNLJ.jsp?id=1202536262102&Duncan_School_of_Law_denied_a ccreditation


I knew they pulled the rug out from my former undergrad alma matter

"In June, the ABA's Council of Legal Education revoked provisional accreditation from the University of La Verne College of Law, citing low bar passage rates. The school had held provisional accreditation since 2006."

I don't know if La Verne reduced their law school tuition to reflect their CBA accreditation. Whittier hasn't had promising GBX results either.

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Thanks Jon for the tip.

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I have a friend attending Taft--he will sit for the FYLSE in June 12 so that will be interesting if he passes it or not. I also have a colleague who went to Concord, she failed the FYLSE 3 times (even after the assistance of a tutor) she came into the school with an MBA from Columbia--law wasn't her strong point so she opted for the EJD. 

I chose California School of Law for the cost and the live class experience. The big downside isn't necessarily the professors (a couple sucked) but the other students. With the Socratic method one is expected to not only read the cases but to brief as well--in large brick and mortar schools that are filled with 50+ students there is a chance of not being called on, yet with small classrooms with more like 20, hands down without fail half of them were not prepared. Complaints such as "Sorry professor there were too many pages to read" or "sorry professor I had too much to drink tonight" "sorry professor maybe next time". I am not kidding, it was frustrating because those students wasted class time with questions. The professors were always suggesting they spend the time reading, and don't get it the first time read again, then again--read E&E if you don't get it but make an effort!


I am actually now in a position since I passed the FYLSE to consider a transfer--I began looking at American Heritage University. It appears many of the professors jumped ship from Abraham Lincoln SOL--at least their website isn't ghetto plus they offer evidence for 16 weeks not this 6 week BS.  The other thing of interest is the cost, $4,000 less than CSOL. Its up in the air now, but I am keeping my eye on the school and I may call one of the professors since he taught my FYLSE review.

Bottom line, no matter where you go you have to put in so much time with studying and teaching yourself--you can't expect law to be spoon fed to you, so it really depends on how disciplined you are and how much effort you put forth in understanding it.


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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: I passed the FYLSE
« on: December 12, 2011, 03:38:14 PM »
Congrats to you. I kept reading your posts to get through those long weeks of waiting hoping that I would only have to do this one time. I was told by my seat mates our Proctor was good luck and my study partner was in row one, I was in row 2 and we both passed.

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Distance Education Law Schools / Re: October 2011 results--who is waiting?
« on: December 12, 2011, 03:34:17 PM »
I passed the first try!! Yaaaaa HOOOOOO.

Let me say that the "Successful Applicant" status feels really good!


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Distance Education Law Schools / October 2011 results--who is waiting?
« on: December 05, 2011, 10:29:13 AM »
4 more days for the mailing, and I am not sure one way or another what side of the fence I will be on (under 560 or over 560). I would say this, of all the FYLSE essays I practiced writing, the October exam was so straight forward I almost clapped when I opened my booklet.

This was my first time I took the exam--so it will be a long wait until June if I fell below 560.






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