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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Emory v. Cardozo v. Hastings
« on: March 26, 2007, 08:58:26 PM »
If all you forgot was to send in the supplement, call the admissions office or financial aid office; I have found that they are fairly flexible.  They probably won't deny  you the grant if you choose to go to Hastings. 

Hastings definitely has a lot of students who pursue IP.  And a lot of the firms that interview at Hastings are based in silicon vally and have major IP departments.  The same goes at a lot of SF firms, due to the proximity to SV.   

I'm really enjoying my time here at Hastings, so if you have any questions, feel free.  Good luck. 

As far as the IP program goes, I hear mixed things on IP rankings and such.  Does Cardozo having a great IP program really matter as far as finding a job?  Do IP firms look and notice they are top 5 in the specialty rankings or care that much about how great that program is?

I think I submitted my FAFSA and profile before march 1st, but I just got an e-mail and apparently I forgot the hastings supplement (/curses), so I guess I may have missed that deadline.....

Thanks for the info on TIGER too mae8.  Do you happen to be involved in it and have any info?  mostly I'm wondering how selective it is.  It looks like a great program, but it would suck to go there hoping to get in and find out like 2 students per year get in or something...

Thanks again guys!  Any information and opinions are GREATLY appreciated, I'm having a tough time with this one...

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Davis, Hastings, Loyola, or USD
« on: March 26, 2007, 05:45:57 PM »
I say choose either Davis or Hastings, whichever you prefer.  Both schools have excellent reputations in LA; Hastings' might be a little better though because it has a more extensive alumni base in LA.  And I don't know about Davis, but 75-80% of Hastings students receive a 5.5K grant that the school doesnt advertise very well -- based on financial need. 

I'm not sure what the terms are, but your scholarships to USD and Loyola may be conditional upon your grades, and from what I hear, Loyola has a stricter grading curve. 

If you havent made a trip to visit Davis and Hastings, do that before you make any decisions.


I know there are many similar threads out there, but I was just wondering what everyone thought about which school I should choose.  A couple of things to keep in mind:
1. I plan to work in LA after I graduate.
2. Because of scholarship and instate tuition, the cost of attending each school is roughly equal.
3. I do not know if I want to work Biglaw, but I would like to keep that option available.

Does anyone have any insight on how Hastings and Davis place in LA.  I know Loyola does well, but Hastings and Davis are ranked higher so I am curious to know if they have the better job prospects in LA.  Should I even consider USD?  I am under the impression USD is a good choice if you want to work in San Diego.  Also I very much like the idea of going somewhere with a nice campus and an undergrad so that I can enjoy the nicer facilities.

Lastly, I also was admitted to BC.  However I have lived in Boston for the past 4 years and have grown tired of the cold.  Am I crazy to not even consider BC?

Any thoughts or helpful information is much appreciated.  Thanks.

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Law School Applications / Re: Davis, Hastings, WTF mate?
« on: March 26, 2007, 12:50:18 AM »
I am pretty sure, but not 100%.  Double check this.  I think that last year when I looked it up they had a B- curve, while Hastings has a B curve. 

Man really their grading curve is harsher than Hastings.  Crap, any advice on LOCI for Hastings or something that can give me a big boost for the WL?

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Where should I go next fall? / Re: Emory v. Cardozo v. Hastings
« on: March 26, 2007, 12:46:42 AM »
Very tough call.  I say you can probably eliminate Cardozo since it doesnt seem like you particularly want to be in NY, and the scholarship may not be sustainable. 

Remember that 80% of UC Hastings students get 5.5K from the "Hastings Grant", which the school doesn't advertise very well for some reason.  You will likely qualify, unless you have a lot of money saved up.  That brings Hastings and Emory roughly in line financially.  Emory is the stronger choice if you want to stay in the South or practice on the East Coast.  But a good 10% or more Hastings students every year choose to work in New York/DC and do quite well.  In California, I say it's a draw; more contacts and CA firms interviewing at Hastings v. arguably more prestige from Emory. 

I am obviously a little biased towards Hastings, but you really cannot go wrong.  Just visit the schools and go where you feel most comfortable, fit in, etc...

Ok,

So, it's looking like I have most of my acceptances in by now, I'm looking at primarily Cardozo (/w 22k per year, 3.3 GPA requirement), Emory (18k per year, ?? GPA?), or UCHastings (no money, but in state tuition, which saves about 7k per year)

I have an engineering background and am looking to go in to patent law.  At this point I think I will probably come back to California to practice, but that's only because my family and friends are here.  I kind of want to go to school out of state partly to make sure I want to come back and practice here, but I am concerned about job options coming back here.  Ultimately, I'm not COMPLETELY set on coming back to California if I leave, but I need to have the option at least.  I am also concerned about keeping the Cardozo scholarship if I go, since I keep hearing rumors of "the scholarship section" and basically ensuring most of us won't keep it.

so... with that all in mind, where should I go?  I'm torn...

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Law School Applications / Re: Davis, Hastings, WTF mate?
« on: March 25, 2007, 07:36:22 PM »
Personally, I think that Hastings has an edge over Loyola in socal.  Hastings has by far the better reputation, and there are plenty of LA based firms that recruit at Hastings.  However, I think that Loyola, because it is such a regional school, has more alumni in LA.  But this may only go so far.  The point is, in a close call like this, I would suggest going to the better school that recruits deeper in the class.  Clearly that school is Hastings.  I am thinking about moving back to LA after graduation (where I'm from) and I am not worried at all.  Probably 1/4-1/3 of the class at Hastings is from LA. 

That said, Loyola is a respectable school in LA.  However, from what I hear they have a stricter grading curve than Hastings, and a fairly low bar passage rate. 


Oh man now I'm concerned too.  Does anyone know an snwer to this?


He's saying that a lot of these firms will only even interview top 10% at Loyola.  At Hastings, most big firms at OCI interview top 1/3. 

Oooooh much better ok thanks for clearing that up.  Yeah I'm making an 88 page worksheet now, on firms in LA, and so far Loyola has been right up there with Harvard, Yale, UCLA etc. as far as OCI's.  So I'm happy.  If anyone wants a copy of it when I'm finished let me know.  I'll take requests later when it's all done.


Exactly.  Which was what troubled me, because it doesn't address the issue: is Loyola or Hastings better for working in SoCal after graduation?


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Law School Applications / Re: Davis, Hastings, WTF mate?
« on: March 25, 2007, 03:46:29 PM »
He's saying that a lot of these firms will only even interview top 10% at Loyola.  At Hastings, most big firms at OCI interview top 1/3. 

Oooooh much better ok thanks for clearing that up.  Yeah I'm making an 88 page worksheet now, on firms in LA, and so far Loyola has been right up there with Harvard, Yale, UCLA etc. as far as OCI's.  So I'm happy.  If anyone wants a copy of it when I'm finished let me know.  I'll take requests later when it's all done.

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Here's a good analysis of the Hastings v. Davis ranking disparity. 

http://www.lawschooldiscussion.org/prelaw/index.php/topic,70521.0.html


I know there are numerous past threads regarding Hastings vs. Davis, but to those of us facing this "dilemma" for the upcoming 07-08 year, which school are you leaning towards?  Why?  Also, current students from either school are more than welcome to give us their impressions.  Thanks a lot! 

Let me go first:  If I were to have to make the choice at this very moment, I'd flip a coin -- very unsettling.

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Well said.  The cutthroat rumor should die.  I go to Hastings, and that rumor is so ridiculous.  I'm sure there are people out there who say that every school is competitive in some sense.  "Cutthroat" sounds like students are out to get each other; that couldn't be farther from the truth.  Sure there is a grading curve, but there is also one at Davis. 

With respect to the facilities -- Hastings is far superior to Davis in this respect.  I think that in many areas like student quality, the schools are on par.  But when you factor in the facilities, special programs, access to the courts, and reputation in the bay area, Hastings wins out.  My friends at Davis obviously disagree, but they are the ones who can't wait to work in SF for the summer, or who get sick of their classmates because of all the incest and drama between them...no joke! 

Hastings isn't cutthroat; that rumor should die.

I'm still debating, but I'm probably at 90 percent Hastings, 5 percent Davis (the other 5 is LC).





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I actually live in the tower, and the size of the rooms are actually quite comfortable.  You have to see them in person.  I have a 1 bedroom, but my friends who have studios are all pretty happy with it. 

I suggest putting your deposit down for the tower ASAP because it fills up quickly, if you are interested.  good luck. 


Has anyone visited the tower yet? How big are the efficiencies/studio? Anyone have any details?

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Law School Applications / Re: Davis, Hastings, WTF mate?
« on: March 21, 2007, 06:51:15 PM »
If you really want Hastings -- and you were waitlisted -- you still have a decent shot.  Hastings take LOTS of students off the waitlist.  I suggest you at least call the admission office in a few weeks and let them know that you are really interested, especially if you say that you will go to Hastings if accepted off the waitlist.  I know a couple students who go in, whose numbers were below-average, who got accepted this way. 

Good luck.

Checked today and my status checker says WL, ah well.  It says an e-mail will follow with details. 

Do you still have to put a deposit down for a WL, does anyone know who has been Wl and received the e-mail?!

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